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Not a topic of foot fetish, but if thats how you get your jollies then by all means.

Yep. I wanna talk about feet. I am curious on the subject because they always wear shoes. Some fans theory that they have human like feet but I don't agree. I can't remember if Sonic ever took his shoes off in the DiC cartoons but I think he did on AoSTH which gave me the idea that Sonic as well as others like him probably have 3 major toes (Hallux, Middle and Little). I also remember in Sonic X Episode 9 "Amy on the Beach", Amy in sandals! The animators estimated that Hedgehog feet were just of one big lump: Amy hiding trinket from Cream, good shot of feet and you could just make out Creams feet. Not being much for Sonic X I just thought that from all the possible random guesses to estimations the animators could consider the feet, why a lump?

Anyway I brushed this off and got on with my life and plan my Ultimate Sonic fan game idea.

Since Tikal would be in this game I decided to check some pictures of her... OMG!

Tikal
She doesn't have toes either!

I can't deny anyway possible that they are some odd shoes of the same fur colour as her or lrather or such, they are Aztec Sandals revealing her merged toed feet.

Anyway I wanna know your thoughts on feets, what did you, or still pressume or believe the kind of feet they have? Just wanna know if I should swallow this or give her toes when I work on the Ultimate Sonic Project.--Mystic Monkey 03:15, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

I've heard of this one website that does a "Science of Sonic" section, and he observes the games and takes some info to make a conclusion. In his srticle about the toeless feet, he concludes that this is an adaptation that allows more traction to move feet to move that fast. Originally, toes were once used similar to claws. There's also other anatomy articles too...--Milotheechidna 22:02, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Wheres this site please?--Mystic Monkey 03:47, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sonic not having toes couldn't possibly make him run faster! When you run, you're not running on your toes, just like when you're walking, you never walk on your toes (unless the floor's too hot, you're in stealth mode, or a ballerina) -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 03:57, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I think I found the article on Concept: Mobius. I think I believe in theory 1 that Sonic's toes are larger than that of a human. I also believe that he may have less toes. As shown in this wildlife factsheet picture he may have 3 main toes and the two side toes could either be more of novelty toes, like the Dewclaw being a useless toe on an animal. Eitherway I will draw my bare-feet Sonic characters like Tikal with 3 toes, as to take into account that despite Sonic's physique not being at all of anything on Earth, he is still considerd a native of Earth and that he is a mutation from regular bipedial hedgehogs of his Earth.--Mystic Monkey 04:07, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

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Where confirmed?--Mystic Monkey 17:08, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

One example is Darkspine Sonic, and another is the above picture of Tikal! Can you not SEE it? -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 04:46, November 3, 2009 (UTC)


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I remember Darkspine, but I considerd that his feet being like that were a side-effect to the transformation.--Mystic Monkey 15:59, November 3, 2009 (UTC)


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Well, I never seen Sonic's feet but considerd them different than a "lump", even during Darkspine Sonic I believed this. I considerd that as a side-effect to the transformation to Darkspine Sonic, While he had 2 new stripes along his head, I thought that his shoes actually merged with the flesh of his feet which explains his shoe-buckle like stripes on his feet. As for Big, he wears shoes with regular belt buckes. I see they are purple like his body but I pressume they are shoes.--Mystic Monkey 16:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)


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Meh, something to grumble over when I character design. I know it be my fan game and can add toes if I want, but still theres the bother of keeping it accurate to Sonic. I can always make a poll on which people prefer.--Mystic Monkey 17:52, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

You think Sonic characters should have toes?
 
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The poll was created at 17:59 on November 5, 2009, and so far 103 people voted.

Through one ear and out the other, Mystic? Have you NOT heard everything we've said and seen about Sonic having NO TOES? Can't we stay true to the games' continuity and just say he does not have any toes?! Now, take a good look at Big and tell me, DO YOU SEE ANY TOES HERE?

DO YOU?! -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 02:17, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

*hits Shelly on head with hammer, knocking her out* .......What? I had to sedate her! XD--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 02:24, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

*gets up and slaps Kagi with the purse* Sedate THAT! -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 02:26, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

.....Okay! *pulls out BIG needle*--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 02:34, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

TWO can play at that game, Kagimizu. *pulls out a baseball bat* -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 03:35, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Touche. However... *needle point lengthens* who would be able to reach first, I wonder.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 04:21, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

It's not about length, it's about (as Sonic would say) speed -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 04:22, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Touche again, however- wait, when did this forum about the design of feet in the Sonic series turn into a fight forum?--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 04:37, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

When you brained me with Amy's hammer! -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 04:38, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Uhh, I never said I hit you with the Piko Piko.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 04:43, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but you didn't say you didn't. -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 04:47, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Also true. Looks like someone got her mojo (or at least memory) back.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 05:02, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Who got their memory back? -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 05:11, November 6, 2009 (UTC)I'm just joking with you (though I wouldn't be surprised if you missed this little tidbit)

You! Aiaiai. Really Shelly, sometimes you're the one who's incredible.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 05:51, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

...did you not see what I stuck to the end on my sig? -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 06:35, November 6, 2009 (UTC)


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...*points to Kagi* He started it ._. -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 03:40, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

58, I strongly suggest you COOL IT!!! *holding banhammer*--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 16:43, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Oh real nice way to sell someone out Shelly.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 03:43, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

19:14, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
That is quite enough from the entire triumvirate of you. As much as I like participating in flame wars, really you should all know better.


*facepalm* I have been reading Shell. I know very well that all Sonic characters have disfigured feet in there shoes. I may stay true to Sonic lore but the poll was about matters of oppinion, especially since it's my fan game idea anyway, I could grant them toes anyway, or should I say Tikal some toes since she... well, perhaps Big too, I am only having a few characters in the game who will have visable feet and was wondering toes or not. Jeeze if I knew it would burn a flamewar I wouldn't have started this. >_<--Mystic Monkey 23:11, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

"Disfigured"? He a blue, 15 year old, anthropomorphic speedster hedgehog!! He has a TON of differences that of a human! -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 03:40, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

Uhhh, she does have you there Mystic.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 03:43, November 7, 2009 (UTC)


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I'm talking about repeatedly criticizing people's thoughts and opinions on a forum's subject! It doesn't mean a piece of s*** how stupid or crazy the subject of the forum is; people have a right to state their opinion, period! If you don't like what people think, then either politely state your opinion, or leave the forum alone! If you can't do that, and keep it up, you know full well what I will do.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 07:19, November 7, 2009 (UTC)


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Censored swearing is allowed. You know that all too well, dontcha Launchballer?--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 07:34, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

09:45, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
Yes, I do. So 58, you harass one of our administrators we'll give a **********ing banhammer to the head, won't we?


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11:33, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
I thought Kagimizu (talk) (contributions) had called me over to troll.


I ment disfigured lightly but have the sense people are just trolliong me now. I think I should close this discussion since it's full of epic failure.--Mystic Monkey 17:01, November 7, 2009 (UTC)


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I respect peoples oppinion on feet topic, I asked other people on it to have a more rounded oppinion on it myself, but so far I feel treated like $#!7 since people are shouting at me that they must be rounded. Just because they are doesn't mean we can't hold oppinions on the matter, for example the concept of evolution or mutation of the character would still leave evidence of toes at least. Thats what I mean by disfigured, as in it is not figured correctly. Of course Sonic will have many differences to a human, he's a hedgehog. Not to mention it is my fna game, why can't I make a few minor changes anyway? What consequence for a Sonic fan game would there be if I gave toes to some characters? I am asking about feet out of oppinions and thought.--Mystic Monkey 17:15, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

17:18, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
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EPIC FAILURE! Push the button!
17:28, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
Says the sugababe.

Shut the doors and close the blinds we're going for a ride! OK, enough nonsense.--Mystic Monkey 17:31, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

17:36, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
Aw.

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18:10, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
The sugababes are an English pop group who released a record called "Push The Button".


Okay, I'm calling it! BOT!--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 18:13, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

18:17, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
Spoilsport!


By "push the button" I ment like an ultimate destruct button of some sort.--Mystic Monkey 23:24, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

To 58) *high fives her back*
To Kagi) You really don't need to ban 58. Aren't you always saying "to each his own [opinion]"? Sure, she critisizes a lot, but that's just her strong opinion on things around here. Besides, I promised Akamia I'd help keep an eye on her, and that's I promise I intend on keeping. Anyone who bans her will have to answer to MEEEEE. *sweetly* Okay? :)
To Launcheballer) *imitates Josh Peck* Do you know everything?
To Mystic) Well, it is your fangame after all. You can see by now we all prefer the toeless feet, but whatever ypu put in your fangame is up to you.

And now, having said that, I think this forum can finally settle down. -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 03:37, November 8, 2009 (UTC)Hallelujah

Grrrrr, fine! So long as she settles down about it, I don't have a problem.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 03:39, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

09:47, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
Not everything, but I know a lot.


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15:15, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
I am prepared to verify through the duck if is necessary.


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Launchbowler, can't you just use simpler words? Quit showin' off... -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 02:14, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

He's saying he can show proof through the.... "duck"? Yeah, you lost me there too.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 02:17, November 9, 2009 (UTC)


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OH!So someone needs the duck!HUH!!:)


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Well, duck me.--Mystic Monkey 16:42, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

20:19, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
Shelly, I suffer from Asperger syndrome, so I do use a different choice of words. It cannot be helped. DiscoDuck, is 58 male or female?


WHO CARES?!?!?! -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 03:54, November 11, 2009 (UTC)When I say "who cares", I'm talking about 58's gender, not Launchbun's severe case of autism

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AH DUCK ON A STRAW(TO MYSTIC):)


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58 IS A NUMBER STUPID!!!:)


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17:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
When I say "who cares", I'm talking about 58's gender, not Launchbun's severe case of autism
Launchbun? Not heard that before...


Yes, and I have plenty more Launchburger, so watch your step. -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 03:27, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Yeouch. Can someone hand me some sunblock?--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 04:00, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Yup. He just got burned. -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 04:12, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

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Dont be a cooked duck Kagi


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Launchballer, how am i supposed to know what's 58's gender!!!???


So we have duck burger on the bun!--Mystic Monkey 19:16, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

19:20, November 12, 2009 (UTC)
THE TROLL Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales Thetalktemplate TTT
Disco, you're it's sibling.


I think Sonic's foot is a lump. I think all their feet are lumps. BUT in one of the old STH comics,Sonic takes off his shoes to go swimming and he has human feet.-Sharna here! Chat! Sonarna! 01:51, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but the Archie comics are non-canon. -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to Shelly 03:21, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

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Oh!AH!paleez...u really think me and 58 are siblings that was just some cheesy story...u know like i once have mentioned that FFF is my bro and i was jokin...oh yeah and 58 is one big headache cuz first the meetpuppet thing wow i dont know how in the world did i get her IP and then the sibling thing...then the suspiciousness...oh brother...OH YEAH!!!FRY ME BABY.LIKE A BOMBAY DUCK!OW!!


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Screw me BILL,SCREW YA!!AAAHHH!!!!man me and me biill fave the bad relation,matie!!!!!BWAHAHAAH(TAKES OF BEAK AND DIES)

OH YES!!!THAT SETTLES IT ME AND 58 ARENT SIBS!! AND CANT YOU JUST SAY THAT THE FEET IS JUST A LUMP!!!SIMPLE!!


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AWSOME BIGS SONIC CHANNEL PICTURE SHOWS THAT BIG IS DOING THE U CANT SEE ME!!GNARLY.


Okay..... Um... SONIC HAS A LUMP FOOT.-Sharna here! Chat! Sonarna! 23:47, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

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