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I'm scared to hell over what User:Lee Carvello has done. He's f*cked up every article he's edited, and despite the fact that his edits have been reverted, all of them are still – including MM's userpage – and, whats extremely suspicious is that two of LC's contribs include edit summaries. I have no idea why he was not blocked indefinately, and I'm also frightened that MM may have given LC the reaction he wants by saying "So long, *ssface!". I am in need of an independant opinion or two.--The prefessional launchballer is The Duchy of Effenhauer Junior and is very resourceful. 15:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't even know the guy let alone use that corny insult. Or own a mercades. I think Zapwire tried to help (Thanks Zap) but since this message is persistant I tried editing it out myself. Since I couldn't see any wikia coding that is not mine I have a feeling that this is hacking and out of my league.--Mystic Monkey 15:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I think it might be that guy that came and vandalized articles at Sonic Fanon Wiki (I'm a user there too). This guy went under the usernames of MotokonoJashin and KISH, there, after a few days we got him banned for good. He also went under proxy IPs and cyber bullied one user there, he also replaced whole pages with hentai pics or total sh*t(we reverted the edits of course). So now that he is banned from the Sonic Fanon Wiki, he to the next wiki he could could find; Sonic News Network.--Kit the Cat 15:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

What would I want with a gold chain anyway? Eitherwhich I think that he is a hacker if he can edit without the need of editing or wikia coding.--Mystic Monkey 15:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Well... that's an possibility. I agree Mystic.--Kit the Cat 15:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Bloody hell, he's a hacker? Sh*t.--The prefessional launchballer is The Duchy of Effenhauer Junior and is very resourceful. 15:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


No guys, he edited a template that effected his user page. This was the character infobox, so every character had it as well. --Zapwirethe tubes are clogged! 16:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Gotta admit, for a vandal thats pretty clever. So those with character bio's like me are effected?--Mystic Monkey 16:15, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Character bios for both user and main. Both Sonic the Hedgehog on mainspace and fanfic char bios are affected. --Zapwirethe tubes are clogged! 16:17, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
So why is previewing the pages in edit makes them appear normal? I checked on my userpage.--Mystic Monkey 16:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Which is why I don't use any large templates with the exceptions of my pile of toot and natural formatting such as font colors, indents and crap. Why previewing the pages in edit makes it appear normal I have no idea.--The prefessional launchballer is The Duchy of Effenhauer Junior and is very resourceful. 16:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Have you cleared both browser cache and wiki cache by adding ?action=purge to the URL? --Zapwirethe tubes are clogged! 16:24, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
An excellent move Zap! Helped on my end.--Mystic Monkey 16:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome. --Zapwirethe tubes are clogged! 16:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Though probably wouldn't fully understand the answer, how did you know that coding would work? I mean, how did it work in general? Could it be used to counter Lee's vandalism?--Mystic Monkey 16:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
MediaWiki (the wiki engine) docs. It basically forces the page to reload the data from last edit. It may make the page a little slow on load, but force the up-to-date version to appear. We'd have to undo or rollback then use it to make sure it won't appear, otherwise, Lee's would appear to everyone. --Zapwirethe tubes are clogged! 16:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Did Lee went on MediaWiki and caused that Character bio problem?--Mystic Monkey 16:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
He did. He's f*cked the wiki up so badly it'll take yonks to repair.--The prefessional launchballer is The Duchy of Effenhauer Junior and is very resourceful. 16:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
If he did so in a "chain reaction" fashion Where if he messed up a core template or feature we commonly use, if the source template is corected then it would revert most of his vandaslism. At least I think thats what Lee was up too right? He changed the main coding of the Character Bio which in cost vandalises many pages without actually having to do it.--Mystic Monkey 16:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Thats the disadvantages of transclusions.--The prefessional launchballer is The Duchy of Effenhauer Junior and is very resourceful. 17:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

But also advantage if we can use the same method he did to reverse his damage thus saving a sticky mess.--Mystic Monkey 17:11, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I suppose you've got a point there, MM.--The prefessional launchballer is The Duchy of Effenhauer Junior and is very resourceful. 17:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
That is if I am right since I am not 100% on what Lee is up too or how to prevent it (I can only do and know so much), but if I am right then once reversed precautions can be taken to prevent it happening again.--Mystic Monkey 18:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Surely if you're a hacker, you would be able to remove them anyhow?--The prefessional launchballer is The Duchy of Effenhauer Junior and is very resourceful. 05:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not a hacker.--Mystic Monkey 14:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
All you have to do is rollback, undo, block, and purge cache. --Zapwirethe tubes are clogged! 11:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
I meant that surely if LC was a hacker he could remove the precautions?--The prefessional launchballer is The Duchy of Effenhauer Junior and is very resourceful. 15:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Good point, but if he could why couldn't he hacked his way back into past wiki's he was kicked out off?--Mystic Monkey 15:33, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

You're right. My mistake...--The prefessional launchballer is The Duchy of Effenhauer Junior and is very resourceful. 16:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Eitherway, I wanna know if all this discussion in general is going somewhere, I wanna help out more but dunno if I am capable but best solution I can consider is to ask help from Wikia, since they host this Wiki. If that is the right option.--Mystic Monkey 20:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

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