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Just be careful what you wish for.
--04:20, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it will work. I written out my wish but only half of it showed up and the other half that didn't was the part that had the actual wish on it. Reasons for a wish and the actual wish are two different things, especially when I took great care to be descriptive on the wish incase of irony or karma. Not only that my friend showed up (at 7:30 which is rather late and odd time to show up) when I was writting and submitting the wish which in sites rules say that no one should know the wish so besides it not being properly requested to begin with but breaks it as well since my friend noticed it. >.<--Mystic Monkey sez 19:47, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
I know and I did, I know people expect Atheists to not as easily believe in a wishing site but there is no point or education in shutting myself off from others theories. Though even though it is my second attempt I hope it counts as a single wish as I don't want to be greedy. However by the accounts of those whos wish has come true it doesn't seem most of them have fufilled the required steps. Some of them just seem to submit there wishes with hope on a whim and claimed there wish has happened a day, 8 days or a few months afterwards without requiring the steps. There seems to be many, while not difficult, questionable ways of going about the wish which makes me question it's neccesity.
- For example the site centers around the number 8 with good reasons such as it representing the Lemniscate symbol (∞) which is heavily assosiated with infinity or also the Mobius Strip. However it also reccomends enforcing your wish every 11:11 because 88÷8=1111, I find kinda unreasonable as isn't it too "logical" for a ritualistic process? Wouldn't it make more sense to enforce your wish at 8:00? I know discussing wishes in that are not granted can disrupt there progess but the site encourages people to believe. To actually tell your wish before it is granted is of course derived from a number of simular wishing methods such as lowing out the candles of your birthday cake, a penny in a wishing well or wishing on a star while keeping the wish itself a secret, but wouldn't simply discussing that you made a wish strengthen it than weaken it? After all you are apply your own belief as well as motivation to others.
- Another important thing to keep in mind is that site tells you only 10% of these wishes work. So while it is still around 888 wish that would be granted, it's no where near the halfway point of a total 8888 wishes so while "What People Are Saying" claims this site to be real, they are really under a percentage of all total true wishers who told us while a small fraction of true wishers prefer not to say along with the false wishers whos wishes didn't come true.
- tl;dr- I think the wishes that come true are coincidental but not saying that there is no science behind it all, more parascience.
Still I won't give up on this site. My wish is too important to me and I can't say if it's actual or not without a fair and open minded test, even though I cannot fufill the requirements exactly. (Is it 11:11am or 11:11pm ? :/) I hope the spell would forgive my inaccuracy by the fact I was born in 1988.--Mystic Monkey sez 12:50, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
Hm, I did not understand a single thing you have typed, I beg your pardon. I think you need help?--58SlugDrones! 13:24, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
Mystic, 58, you guys don't have to understand it. You just have to believe. I know, you're probably thinking, "how do I believe what I don't understand? What type of oxymoron is that?" Well, just believe what the site is telling you, because you don't have to go into deep thought about it. It's simple -- that's why we're having a hard time with it. -- Shelly the Hedgehog I'm not a monkey! 01:44, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
Isn't "Make a Wish" a charity foundation or somethin'? -- Murphyshane I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow Don't click here 13:49, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
- I do most of the requirements, I doubt most of those who claimed there wishes come true have fufilled them, like those who had there wishes come true the day after than 8 days.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 17:17, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
- I do enjoy these bits of of wisdom my page provides so I am learning from my wish. XD I know my wish will probably won't come true but that doesn't mean what I wish for won't come true someday. Im just going through this 8 day thing because Atheist or not even I have doubts about myself and would like some help from somebody, whenever a power, an actual god or a fellow human.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 22:43, December 1, 2010 (UTC)
We all need help, but a lot of us just can't get it...and Myself, you ask a good question. Not everything we wish for is going to come true, but that's where something called "hope" steps in...
But I think I'm losing my hope...almost everytime I make a wish, I get back to the page too late; 24 hrs have come to pass, and the numerological alignment of my wish is cancelled. ...I...I feel like no matter what I do, it won't make a difference... -- Shelly the Hedgehog I'm not a monkey! 03:07, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
Why make a wish? Seriously, wishes don't come true by silly numbers and cards or what-so-ever. Shel, seriously, I am not into making wishes by a shooting star or something. Oh and I am not an oxymoron, I never said that I couldn't understand fortune-telling or making wishes I just didn't understand the thing he said above my message. Eh, this forum...--58SlugDrones! 15:11, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
If anything, they'll jinx your wish -_ Murphyshane I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow Don't click here 16:23, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Slugs, do you know what an "Oxymoron" is? An Oxymoron is a statement that contradicts it's sense. For example I have doubts about this wishing thing because it just seems a bit whimsicle. However Im giving it hope since I haven't tried it yet (though I admit my last day and no results) However keep in mind you cannot see or feel "air" but you know it is there.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 16:50, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Yes you can feel air! And you can scientifically verify its existence with incredible ease! -- Supermorff 18:35, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Well yes, but if you had to convince an idiot with little to no scientific tools and without strangling him it be difficult.
- Yes you can feel air! And you can scientifically verify its existence with incredible ease! -- Supermorff 18:35, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
Still I admit that I have not given my wish enough attention as it deserves. Icould of at least do the 11:11 thing more often. But sadly I don't have exactly 8 friend to share the site with and if I did fear they wil lconsider me spam mailing. :( But even if I cannot proove how important my wish is to me doens't mean that it isn't and will still strive for it. Even if I don't know the path I must take, I will still reach my destination.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 19:41, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
I know that I am not an oxymoron. That's why I said it. Got a problem with that?--58SlugDrones! 09:21, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
Mystic's 8 days are up
Well nothing happened. But still glad that the site brought me a bit of hope. After all, it said my wish will come true after 8 days. It didn't say when after 8 days. ;) Still I will hold onto my paper 8.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 22:27, December 4, 2010 (UTC)
- Well it said there was some sort of Quest I had to do. I was expecting it to be going to a neighbouring coutnry or something epic and at first was intimidated by the idea, but around day 5 I thought "Yeah I could do it!" But the Quest never showed up.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 17:09, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
Seriously, what do us as people gain by having our every wish granted? If we want something, we should work for it, strive for it, earn it. We wouldn't be where we are today if we just wished for everything. Myself 123 17:54, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
- Of course, but how can we strive for something without hope? Besides I only made the one wish.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 18:57, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
Exactly -- Murphyshane I voted Blaze, so you vote Shadow Don't click here 19:21, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
- I can pick at that line but it's Christmas time so I won't. Point is a bit of hope can do wonders. Im Atheist but I believe in hope as it cna come from anything. A eprson or an idea etc.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 19:55, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
If you want a wish to come true, you have to work for it, yes. That's the point of the website. That's the point of wishing. It's not like Santa Clause, where you can just write up a list, go to sleep and wake up and it'll be there. No, this site requires you to put some elbow grease into your wish, so that you can help out the forces that are trying to make your wish come true. Understand, Myself? (And everyone else reading this...?) -- Shelly the Hedgehog I'm not a monkey! 02:41, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
- So why need to wish for it if you can just work for it? I will work for my goal, I just made a wish out of interest.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 21:48, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
Well, let's say it was something impressible, like for example, something that science has 'proven' to be unattainable. Like flight. You could make a wish, and then take the steps you feel nessicary to acheiving it. Anything under the sun can and eventually will happen. -- Shelly the Hedgehog I'm not a monkey! 01:58, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Like, buying a plane ticket?--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 18:57, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
I'm an Atheist too, it's the point of the saying that's important, heaven could refer to any higher force, in this case, whatever's granting you this wish. In response to Sonicrox, then what is the point of this website if it's not claiming to grant said wish? Myself 123 21:04, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
No, see, it's saying that it can grant your wish, but you have to prove that you really want the wish, or those forces behind it aren't gonna waste their time. Get it? -- Shelly the Hedgehog I'm not a monkey! 01:51, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
- So these forces are sentiant? Like a god?--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 05:38, December 8, 2010 (UTC)
- So your saying that if we want our wishes to come true, we must actually achieve it by working for it, which I must say is reasonable and agree on that, but by the time we have acomplished our goal purely by our own efforts, it turns out it was all some superior forces doing? Not that we actually put attention and hardwork in achieving what we desired?--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 18:12, December 16, 2010 (UTC)
No, but you're half right. If our goal is thought of to be "impossible, as proven by science," then we have those forces to guide us, should we decide we want to work towards the goal, but just don't know where to start. You see? -- Shelly the Hedgehog I'm not a monkey! 00:27, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
- But if those goals end up possible then they would be possible scientifically as well. After all if there were people with the same "impossible" wishes or goals but only one who gets what s/he wants, what makes him/her so special? Because s/he earned it? What about those others who are probably incapable of earning it, like a cure for a cancer that hasn't been cured yet or food and water for a starving family?--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 23:09, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
The way I see it, wishes that come true are purely coincidence. but it is possible to make coincidences and get them to work for you.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 22:18, December 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Yep, or else why wish them to begin with? In yet, despite the chances they tend to happen so something must have happened to lead to such events. For example lets say you were stuck down a well and your wish was to leave, then it turns out Loassie fetch help and your saved. Of course I believe some, perhaps most wishes happen through sheer coincidences or dumb luck.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 22:39, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but it sounds a bit like you're thinking too deeply about this. I know you call it skepticalism, and you make very good points, but now I'm starting to worry... -- Shelly the Hedgehog I'm not a monkey! 01:59, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
- All I am saying is that wishes or prayers do not come true by some magical or spiritual, sentiant force that we cannot see (what most would call a "god"). Wishes that have come true are from either coincidences, effort or of varying levels both.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 21:24, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
- Thats an easy one. Because at times life is $#!7, during those times people feel truely helpless and wish someone else can clear up there problems that seem impossible, someone of infinite and impossible power who can shoo the problems away. When the problems clears up it is never some ray of light or an angel themselves comming down to help with the problem first hand, it is always assistance or a coincidence that would clear it up, in yet still this is considered an act of "God" when really it is an actual force than a magical one.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 05:40, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
- String theory? Uh... *Wiki's it* Meh I don't fully get it. I best leave that string thing for now.--Mystic Monkey is at Diamond Dust Zone this Christmas. 05:40, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry it took me so long to reply, but if it helps, I have absolutely NO excuse! :3 But Kagi, if you wouldn't mind summarizing that string theory for us, please? -- Shelly the Hedgehog I'm not a monkey! 07:15, December 27, 2010 (UTC)
From what I understand by breifly looking through the wikipedia article, it is the idea that matter is held together by string like energy. I could be well off, while Physics and Chemistry was my strong point, Quantum Physics I only know so much.--Mystic Monkey sez 17:53, December 27, 2010 (UTC)