Forum:Meatpuppetry and Sockpuppetry

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Alright, I feel we need a specific place to put this. It seems that certain people are offended by these terms, so we all need to talk about it. Personally, while I agree that the person who brought it here needs a major personality adjustment, I feel that these might have some use. These aren't terms that LB just came up with to make him special; they are recognised terms on places like Wikipedia. I'm sorry to anyone who are offended by these terms, and I don't like defending LB, being offended is not enough for these titles to be removed. Here's how I see the terms:

• Sockpuppet: A sockpuppet is a different account a User may use to escape punishment or banning.

• Sockpuppeteer: Someone who uses Sockpuppets.

• Meatpuppets: A meatpuppet is someone another User may "use" to influence a poll or debate. The meatpuppet is typically someone the other User knows from their personal life, be a relative or a personal friend.

• Meatpuppeteer: A meatpuppeteer is a person who "uses" a meatpuppet (in other words, goes to them for help in influencing a poll or debate). The meatpuppeteer and meatpuppet are determined by who has been here longer.

If these descriptions are inaccurate, please fix them.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 00:59, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Kagi, can I tell you something? I don't feel like LB is 'following the rules' exactly, the way he is tagging us all. Some of my friends who are INNOCENT have been tagged as well!!!

• Sunny the Hedgehog
• Mario&sonicroxs (AND she hardly ever comes here anymore so WHY?!)
• 58SlugDrones!

This is unfair to me AND them!! -- Shelly the Hedgehog 01:11, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, they-well, Sunny anyway-is my friend too! And believe me, I'm not crazy about the fact that LB's been the only tagger here. I just feel that maybe, maybe this might prove some use. Besides, the two have admitted that they are brothers, so it justifies it a bit. From my point of view, it just tells people that, if certain Users are having a debate and more join in, who's opinion to believe is a nuetral, honest opinion. Besides, I've told FFF about it on the M.E., so hopefully we can end this thing before it gets out of hand.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 01:26, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Dude, me and EHeroFlareNeos pretty much joined at the same time. Besides, we only ever use this Wiki for reference, like the Brothers Chaps use the Homestar Wiki, and we happen to have similar, if not the same, opinions on things. And we both agree with Shelly that this kind of thing is unfair and offensive. Meatballer needs to learn a lesson here. EHeroDarkNeos 01:37, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

*chuckles* Meatballer; alright I'll give yu that one, it's funny. I also agree that LB needs a major personality adjustment. However, it doesn't change the fact that, following the standards, you are the meatpuppeteer and FlareNeos is the meatpuppet. I don't make the rules, I just follow 'em, and I don't think it's fair that you guys expect to be taken off the list just because you find it offensive. I feel that it's not fair to the other Users on th list. Besides, it's just a title; it doesn't automatically label you as a bad User. Actions speak louder than words, and if you don't like LB, then why do you give a damn what he labels you as? Just keep your cool, let it go, and let the admins take care of this.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 01:48, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Would you like to be called a "Meatpuppet?" Besides, who ARE the admins on this site anyways? If I knew, I would probably be able to say something to them. Otherwise, I still find it a little unfair that we are labled that just cuz we are brothers. EHeroFlareNeos 01:52, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

• SLJCOAAATR 1
• Fairfieldfencer
• Mystic Monkey
• Supermorff
• Myself 123
• User:Molten Scandium
• AND soon-to-be-admin...ME!

SLJ FFF and Mystic seem to be the only active admins presently, so you might wanna go to one of those three first. -- Shelly the Hedgehog 02:02, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Eh, I'd only give a damn if someone like friends or family called me that, otherwise I'd just say "I don't give a cr** what you think of me, because you don't know me, so buzz off!" Regardless, the rules say that you guys have to deal with it, or you could be banned. I know it ain't fair, but-and I have not only heard this, I have lived it for most of my life-life isn't fair. I've notified one of the admins here who has been going to another Wiki lately, and I hope we hear from him soon. Until then, you'll just have to live with it. If the admins agree with you guys, then great! If not, uhhh, can't help ya there.

P.S. Shelly, I've already notified FFF, so we shoul (hopefully) be able to resolve this soon.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 02:08, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Fine! Since you're so insistant, I guess I have no choice but to go your way. But no matter WHAT you say, you cannot change my opinion. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. EHeroDarkNeos 02:19, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

You know what, good for you! I am the first one to say "to each their own opinion". And if you're gonna stick to your opinion, then that's something I can respect. Unfortunately, you will have to live with the labels. Sorry.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 02:30, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I've put both categories Meatpuppets and Meatpuppeteers on both of your articles. Neither has control over the other. It's just a label, alright?--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 02:42, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Kagimizu, you have only made things worse... -- Shelly the Hedgehog 02:46, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

Man, I'm trying to follow the rules and still be reasonable. Why is that so hard!!??--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round~ 03:13, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

It's hard because of all the confusion. The thing we are doing wrong is not talking with Launchballer. NOT a message on his page that one of us leaves and then others get into an argument with this user. I mean actually talking to him, asking him why he does so, and waiting for his reply. -- Shelly the Hedgehog 03:15, September 21, 2009 (UTC)