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July 2, 2009
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  • Because SEGA put so much focus on Sonic in recent years, many Sonic fans tend to think of him as the only slice of importance in the entire franchise. Sonic is certainly an important character, but there is more to the series than just Sonic. The game developers have been trying to tell us that for years by putting more focus on other characters, but many Sonic fans still aren't listening.

Super Mario Maker

This game proves that Mario games/any game in general are more than just random stages and props (or at least should be). I actually feel dirty considering getting this game. It just feels that cheap. I know Mario games have the same overall plot, but you would think the serieswould evolve from the setup of "random no-rhyme-or-reason stagesfor the hell of it". We know Mario's main plot is rescue Peach/beat Bowser, but HOW he can go about it is different each game, especially when it comes to possible story-driven adaptations (comics, anime, etc.).

Similar to what Jontron said in his Bubsy series review, the job of a game developer is to create a world that ceases to be fake in the mind of a player. A world where your suspension of belief kicks in and your mind is able to meld with the game environment as if you were actually there. It's about the adventure. I don't get that feeling with this game, where you create random stages with a collection of rehashed props from the more iconic 2-D Mario games (as opposed to his entire 2-D lore). I feel that disconnected from the game anytime I see clips of it in commercials, trailers, and web shows.

Take the 8-bit Mega Man series for example. We know from a glance he simply fights a slew of random robot masters, but in the Archie comics by Ian Flynn, we're given actually plot arcs for each game the arc is based on. The Mega Man 3 saga focuses on the betrayal of Dr. Wily after he seemingly "turned good", and how the MM3 line of robots masters have no free will, while the others feel that because they we're designed for combat, they can't offer a practical use in society. There's also in-between arcs that help set up the next arc based one of the games. The plot and setup is repetitive for those games, but Flynn is able to work around that and come up with something unique.

The same could be possible for a Mario game like Super Mario 64, such as focusing on a star mission(s) per episode/issue, as Mario works his way up to his final battle with Bowser in the sky. And the adventures would still continue. In general, they can also focus on the motives of each character. Peach doesn't just wait for Mario to rescue her like a prop, Luigi has some purpose in following Mario, Bowser seems to have specific interest in Peach as Ganondorf does with Zelda and the triforce, the Koopa kids have their reason for doing what they do and how they do it, there's at least one major Yoshi or Toad/Toadette with their own personalities, power-ups, pipes, and the abundance of coins have a history and a reason to exist in the lives of those who reside in the Mushroom World, as well as all these lands, including locations governed by specific characters in the Mario Kart series (How does Daisy own a cruise ship? Toad has his own turnpike? DK and Wario have their own snow slopes? There's a mall!?).

So far the entire Mario series itself is an abridged version of what could be something much bigger. But due to the simplicity of the series, fans and the video game mainstream are left with their own Dorkly Bits portrayals (Mario - Rude Italian stereotype, Luigi - Neglected brother/buttmonkey, Peach - Demanding girlfriend, Bowser - Intellectual lizard with marital problems, Birdo - Queer), while Miyamoto is in his own lalala state of mind just making games based on whatever the hell he feels like.

But still, compared to worse titles in recent months/years/the history of gaming (like Sonic Boom), this game isn't terrible, just disappointing. If there was a true mainline title alongside this as part of Mario's 30th, I'd be a little more forgiving. But this right here was it. The game that IS Mario's 30th and how we look at the series after 30 years....

SA2B 2P Quotes

  • Sonic
    • "Let's rock!"
    • "Let's do this!"
  • Tails
    • "Cyclone engage!"
    • " I'll beat you!"
  • Knuckles
    • "I will protect the Master Emerald"
    • "I hold the power of the Master Emerald"
  • Shadow
    • "I promise you... revenge!"
    • "Let me show you my real power"
  • Eggman
    • "The world is mine!"
    • "You think you can beat me?"
  • Rouge
    • "I never failed my mission"
    • "I won't lose to the likes of you"
  • Amy
    • "It's my turn now!"
    • "Amy Rose is here!"
  • Tikal
    • "I'm Tikal"
    • "I must do something"

Sonic Game Nicknames

  • Sonic X-treme - Sonic Experimental 3D
  • Sonic Jam - Sonic Genesis Games + Sonic Xtreme Scraps
  • Sonic R - Sonic Foot-Racing
  • Sonic Adventure - Sonic Evolution
  • Sonic Adventure 2 - Sonic Evolution 2: Meet Shadow or Sonic Rashomon
  • Sonic Pocket Adventure - Sonic Handheld Zero
  • Sonic Advance - Sonic Handheld
  • Sonic Advance - Sonic Handheld 2: Harder Than Ever
  • Sonic Advance 3 - Sonic Handheld 3: Buddy System
  • Sonic Heroes - Sonic Teamwork
  • Sonic Gems Collection - Sonic: The Extended Library
  • Sonic Rush - Sonic & Blaze
  • Shadow the Hedgehog - Shadow's Closure
  • Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) - Sonic Drama Rush Job, Happy 15th
  • Sonic and the Secret Rings - Arabian Sonic
  • Sonic Rush Adventure - Sonic & Blaze 2: Nuts (Marine) & Boats
  • Sonic Unleashed - Sonic the Werehog
  • Sonic and the Black Knight - Sonic the Swordsman
  • Sonic 4: Episode I - Sonic for Genesis Purists
  • Sonic Colors - Super Sonic Bros. Galaxy (Solo Still)
  • Sonic Generations (Console) - Sonic Big's 20th: Too HD for Nintendo
  • Sonic Generations (3DS) - Sonic's Big 20th: Watered Down for 3DS (We're Not Doing This Again)
  • Sonic Lost World - Sonic Parkour Mess!
  • Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric - Sonic Crap!
  • Sonic Boom: Shattered Crystal - Sonic Crap Handheld!
  • Sonic Runners - Sonic Freemium: Smartphone Only!

Mind-Boggling Sonic Theories/Questions

  • Prof. Boobowski created the Rings of Order to power a giant dimensional ring take can transport characters anywhere in the universe (Sonic's world). The Chaos Emeralds are needed to cross dimensions to another universe (the human world).
  • What connection do the Rings of Order have with the Chaos Rings from Knuckles Chaotix?
  • Gerald Robotik (Eggman's grandfather) created Shadow on the Space Colony Ark (native to the human world), while G.U.N. (an organization native to the human world) was involved in the tragic events that happend abord the ark. Yet Eggman is native to Sonic's world. How the hell does that work?

The Worst People in the Sonic Franchise

The Sonic franchise manages to attract some of the worst people on the planet, whether it's a group of psycho fans who have been banned, caused others to get banned, or out-right banned people themselves. But then there are some particular names who have contributed to some of the worst blows in the industry, whether it's out of negligence, greed, pure ego, or d*********ery. These people are:

  • Takashi Iizuka - Current Producer of Sonic after Naka left; retconned the Chaoti; treats the classic era and modern era as seperate universes. Only acknowledges games in the classic era such as Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3 & Knuckles.
  • Ken Penders - The devil of the Sonic franchise; a selfish human being; the worst writer in the Archie Sonic comic; caused an entire retcon which erased 20 years of material in the Archie Sonic comic; also some baggage over Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood.
  • Michael Haigney - 4Kids writer; never played a single Sonic game, read any issue of the comic, or watched any Sonic show. "For every Sonic character, you get the toy".
  • Judge Richard Berman - Ruled in Penders' favor during the Penders vs Archie case.
  • Adam Sessler and Morgan Webb - Gave venomous reviews to the modern Sonic games.
  • Ken Pontac & Warren Graff - Wrote ridiculous comedic crap for recent Sonic games.
  • Big Red Button - Responsible for he existence of Sonic Boom
    • Stephen Frost - Responsible for Rise of Lyric, 300 people being fired, and SEGA initial shift toward mobile and PC games.
    • Bill Freiberger - Main writer for Sonic Boom, the animated series.
  • Sony/Renderware - Partially responsible for the lack of quality in Sonic Heroes.
  • Hayao Nakayama - Highy irrational over a misunderstanding with Sonic X-treme's beta engine.
  • Ofer Alons - Contributed to the development hell of Sonic X-treme.
  • Nepenthe a.k.a. Super Gigantic F**KHOLE!
  • Diogenes
  • Ketchup
  • The Hogfather a.k.a. Mr. " Know-it-all"
  • Ryannumber1gamer
  • FalconKick

The Best People in the Sonic Franchise

  • Yuji Naka - Created the entire Sonic series.
  • Naoto Oshima - Created Sonic's iconic design.
  • Ben Hurst - Chief Writer for SatAM. He will be missed. †
  • Jaleel White - Voiced SatAM Sonic (American Classic Sonic)
  • Martin Burke - Voice OVA Sonic (SEGA Classic Sonic)
  • Ryan Drummond - The true voice for modern Sonic (Sonic Adventure)
  • Akinori Nishiyama - Sonic Adventure Writer
  • Shiro Maekawa - Sonic Adventure 2 Writer

Worst Blow to the Sonic Franchise

  • Sonic SatAM's cancellation
  • Sonic X-treme's cancellation
  • The Dreamcast's End
  • Renderware's Involvement in Sonic Heroes.
  • Sonic X licensed by 4Kids
  • Sonic 2006 being rushed
  • Ken Penders Lawsuit/The Archie Sonic Retcon
    • Rob O' the Hedge and Mari-An being replaced by Bow Sparrow and Thorn the Lop in in SU #47, on such short notice
    • Thrash sends Knuckles' tribe to an unknown zone.
    • Knuckles cracks the ground in anguish, while Thrash gets away.
    • Sonic tries to rescue Sally, but gets caught in the Super Genesis Wave/Megaman crossover.
    • Eggman damages Sonic's universe, erasing any character that isn't Sega, Dic, or Flynn's.
    • A radically different universe with no beginning or end.
    • The planet is shattering and everyone is irritable and tense.
  • Sonic Boom
    • Sonic's amplified jerkass characterization.
    • Knuckles' buff look.
    • Amy's role as leader/Sally 2.0/Womer Are Wiser
    • The emphasis of meme-ish comedy.
    • The Wii U game
    • The 3DS game
    • The animated series on Cartoon Network ("Check It" Era)
    • The Archie comic
    • Every single toy and miscellanious merchandise.
  • The Aftermath of Sonic Boom
    • 300 people lost their jobs
    • SEGA relocated to South California
    • SEGA only focuses on smartphones games now. No more console games until furth notice.
  • Other:
    • Sonic being the only playable character in modern titles:
      • Sonic and the Secret Rings
      • Sonic Unleashed
      • Sonic 4: Episode 1
      • Sonic Colors
      • Sonic Generations
    • No Adventure series gameplay
    • Certain Sonic games absent from Nintendo systems:
      • SEGA Superstars
      • Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)
      • Sonic Rivals
      • Sonic Rivals 2
      • Sonic Free Riders
      • Sonic 4: Episode 2
      • Sonic 4: Episode Metal
      • Sonic Generations

Future Game Ideas

Sonic Adventure 3

If I had full creative control over what to do for the next Sonic game (assuming it goes in the main series), it would be Sonic Adventure 3.

  • Six characters, each with their own story: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Blaze, and Silver
  • The return of Chao Garden. Maybe an element feature this time around.
  • Have one Chao you raise follow you through an action stage (similar to Cheese) and assist you in destroying enemies.
  • Try to implement all of Sonic's attacks ths time around:
    • A to jump
    • A in mid-air for a homing attack, no lock-on symbol
    • B to Spin Dash
    • B in mid-air to bounce
    • X to boost, once you build up build maximum gauge from running.
  • For Chao attributes in action stages:
    • Swim - Defense
    • Fly - Evasion
    • Run - Speed
    • Power - Attack
    • Stamina - Overall Heath
    • No gimmicks like racing, using a mecha, or treasure hunting. Just get to the end of the stage.
    • No gamepad touchscreen or Wii remote gimmicks. Just usage of a controller with sticks and buttons.
  • No 2D. Save that for a handheld or digital (eShop/PSN/XBL) game.
  • Each character gets a theme song.
  • Perfect camera angling that no one will bitch about. I never did get any replies on that thread, thank you very much.
  • Unlockables of actual value, like Knuckles Chaotix, SegaSonic Arcade, or Sonic Shuffle (with improved gameplay).
  • Emblems!
  • Customizable character menu themes.
  • An option to mute Omochao.
  • An option to skip cutscenes.
  • Sound Test
  • Replay cutscenes
  • You have to run towards the screen from something huge in the first stage!
  • Super Sonic, Super Tails, Super Knuckles, Super Shadow, Burning Blaze, and Super Silver playable in regular stages after the last story.
  • A distinction between Sonic's world (Green Hill Zone, Angel Island, etc.) and the human world (Station Square, Central City, etc.).
  • The game will be twice (or maybe thrice) as long as Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2.
  • The game will feature a plot that involve the human world, Sonic's world, and Blaze's world.
  • Due to the advancement in plot, there will be no hub world, except for Chao World.
  • The main theme songs will be by Crush 40/anyone else:
    • Main Theme: Into the Wind
    • Sonic's Theme: Revvin' Up
    • Tails' Theme: Watch Me Fly (Tentative Theme)
    • Knuckles Theme: Unknown From M.E. (Remix)?
    • Shadow's Theme: Who I Am (Formerly unused song from Shadow the Hedgehog)
    • Blaze's Theme: Fire Woman
    • Silver's Theme:
    • Amy's Theme: My Sweet Passion (Remix)
    • Eggman Theme: E.G.G.M.A.N. (Remix)
    • Rouge & Omega's Theme: This Machine
  • Lead Composer: Jun Senoue
  • Primary Music Style: Melodic rock, with some hip-hop for the Knuckles stages.

Just like the good old modern Sonic days, but better.

And this and just part one of my ideas.

Sonic Ultimate Brawl

Onward to part 2! Sonic Ultimate Brawl!

Think Marvel vs Capcom 2. Now replace all of the characters with Sonic characters, from the classic era to the modern era. No comic book or American characters.

So far we have Pokemon x Mystery Dungeon, Pokemon x Nobunga's Ambition, Legend of Zelda x Dynasty Warrior, and Mario x Dance Dance Revolution.

Why pass up on Marvel vs Capcom 2. Not only is its fast-paced fighting ideal to the Sonic series, but since the game deals with 2D sprites, rather than clunky 3D models, the game should run smoothly and hold over 50 characters. And the original was just from the 6th generation. Imagine how much more polished this game could be in the 8th generation, plus online battles, and DLC. Why MvC2 alone already has a competitive community on par with Melee. If there was ever a good time to bring several characters back, it would be for this.

  • 3-on-3 battles, if this wasn't already obvious.
  • The default roster (and this is pending) would consist of: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Cream & Cheese, Shadow, Rouge, E-102 Gamma, Chaos, Dr. Eggman, Big, Tikal, Vector, Espio, Charmy, E-101 Beta, E-123 Omega, Metal Sonic, Blaze, and Silver.
  • Additional characters would consist of Mighty, Ray, Lumina, Void, Metal Knuckles, Fang, Bark, Bean, Eggrobo, Emerl, Gemerl, Jet, Storm, Wave, Cosmo, Bokkun, Mephiles, Tiara, Honey, Battle Bird 16th/Speedy, Shahra, Marine, Capt. Whisker, Johnny (Robot), Eggman Nega, Chip, and Shade (if possible).
  • These additional characters can be purchased in the game's shop in character packs.
  • You can earn currency in the form of points by pulling off enough combos and damage (simply by playing the game and advancing through rounds).
  • The jazz music genre will still be there, but will consist of completely original songs.
  • This game is in no way canon, as it uses characters from different continuities, provided they're from the main Sonic series and SEGA. No DiC, Archie, or Big Red Button.
  • Character profile pages
  • A wallpaper gallery
  • An unlockable Puyo Puyo minigame (based on Puyo Puyo 2/Tsu), where you go up against all the characters you've unlocked. If you beat the game in a specific order of characters, you unlock each of the following SEGA characters: NiGHTS, Reala, Amigo, Billy Hatcher, and Ristar.

And that's only part of it.

If the game ever becomes popular enough for a demanded sequel and the cast grows some more 10 years later, I'd probably include Mecha Sonic (S3&K) and the Deadly Six, along with Silver Sonic, Neo Metal Sonic, Mecha Knuckles, Zero, Erazor Djinn, Merlina, Iblis, the Hobidon (Sonic X), Dark Oak, Battle Bird 15th, maybe Dr. Fukurokov, Witchcart, Bearanger, Carrotia, Fockewulf, Chaz (Sonic X-treme), Gabby (Sonic X-treme), Pacachamac, King Boom Boo, Metal Sonic MK III, Werehog Sonic, the E-10000 robots, the SCR robots, Omochao, even the useless Tails Doll.

NiGHTS: Sonic x Dreams

On to Part 3: A Sonic-themed sequel of NiGHTS into Dreams.

  • In this game, the two main human children are Chris and Helen from Sonic X.
  • The plot takes place between Season 2 and Season 3 of Sonic X.
  • Both Chris and Helen will receive character development in this game that will inspire to become inventors (or whatever occupation) as shown in Season 3.
  • In this game NiGHTS (guided by either Chris or Helen) has to go through three Sonic stages (three for each person).
  • In Chris' dream, he learns that Sonic's friends have been captured by a Nightmaren expy of Eggman. Chris has to free two of them, and then find Sonic.
  • In Helen's dream, she is summoned by a mysterious voice of someone she has yet to meet (an newer Sonic character who did not appear in Sonic X, Blaze). While searching for this person, she also has to free Cream, and then Amy, who were also captured by Eggmaren, an alternate reality doppelgänger of Eggman.
  • Chris' stages are Angel Island (Knuckles), Splash Canyon (Tails), and Starlight Carnival (Sonic).
  • Helen's stages are Leaf Forest (Cream), Twinkle Park (Amy), and Sky Babylon (Blaze).
  • Helen's also able to walk in her dream/Nightopia ("In a dream you can do, anything you want to").
  • Reala and Wizeman the Wicked also make an appearance in this game, who this expy of Eggman reports to.

Sonic Legacy

What if there was a Sonic game that featured 7 reimagined classic Sonic titles, with Adventure-style cutscenes, all on one single disc! Sonic Legacy! Similar to Kirby Super Star, Sonic Mega Collection, and the Sonic Adventure Series. This first game in this two-part series focuses on the first half of the Classic Era:

  • Sonic 1 - Actually gives Sonic a backstory. Combines elements from both the 16-bit game and 8-bit game.
  • Sonic 2 (8-bit) - Focuses on Sonic rescuing Tails, and the two meeting each other for the first time.
  • Sonic 2 (16-bit) - Sonic and Tails explore and liberate Westside Island, and first encounter the Death Egg.
  • Sonic CD - Sonic travels to Little Planet and rescues Amy from Metal Sonic.
  • SegaSonic Arcade - Sonic meets Mighty and Ray and the trio escape from Eggman's Fortress.
  • Sonic Chaos - Sonic and Tails return to South Island to stop it from sinking.
  • Sonic 3 & Knuckles - The entirety of both games as Sonic and Tails first encounter Knuckles and go up against the return of the Death Egg.

Sonic and the Olympian Trials

  • Kid Icarus amiibo
  • Greek myths story
  • Hermes. Not a hedgehog. Playable.
  • Sonic Adventure gameplay. No endless runner.

How SEGA loosely built up to Sonic Adventure 3

Why is SEGA so alergic to Sonic Adventure 3 (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles. Shadow, Blaze, and Silver). They’ve been loosely building up to it for years:

  • Super Sonic, Super Tails, Super Knuckles, Super Shadow, Burning Blaze, and Super Silver.
  • Sonic is the de-facto protagonist, who received his super form the same year the series received a seventh emerald.
  • Tails is Sonic’s CLOSEST friend.
  • Knuckles is the guardian of the Master Emerald, and to a lesser extend, the Chaos Emeralds.
  • The servers are the seven chaos, in connection to the Master Emerald.
  • Super Tails and Super Knuckles debuted in the same game that featured the first major climax in the Genesis trilogy.
  • Shadow is Sonic first major doppelganger/rival since Metal Sonic, who also has a super form, and debuted in a game that not only commemorated Sonic’s 10th anniversary, but was the last Sonic game to be released on a SEGA console before the end of the Dreamcast.
  • Shadow is also the first newer (not completely brand new) Sonic character to appear on a Nintendo console system (after Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, and Eggman appeared on Sonic Advance, for the Gameboy Advance). To a further extent, Shadow is technically the first character you see in Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, if you count the opening sequence.
  • Blaze is a parallel counterpart of Sonic, who also receives a super form, despite it being accessed via Sol Emeralds (which parallel the Chaos Emeralds, and also have seven in total). She also appears in the first 3D handheld Sonic game, as well as the last handheld series on an actual handheld game system.
  • Silver not only has a super form, but debuted in a game that commemorated Sonic’s 15th anniversary. The events of the game in question may have been retconed, but Silver is at showed to have the ability to turn super. Silver also has a spare, in which he also appeared in Sonic Rivals, which was also released in the same year of 2006, and is canon to the Sonic timeline.
  • So altogether, those are six characters, the same number of characters who are playable in the main story in both Sonic Adventure games (SA1 had Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Big, Gamma, and SA2 had Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, Eggman, Rouge)
  • With six playable characters in both Sonic Adventure games and six characters who have super forms, it is the perfect premises for Sonic Adventure 3!

Sonic the Series

If Sonic receive an animated series that is a faithful adaptation to the series, it would an epic adventure where Sonic first travels to South Island, encounters Eggman, destroys a few badniks, frees a few animals while collecting six emeralds, travels through Marble, Spring Yard, Labyrinth, Starlight Zone, and finally takes down Eggman in Scrap Brain Zone, restores South Island back to its natural state, receives a distress call from a two-tailed fox named Tails, rescues him from Silver Sonic Prototype Version, begins his friendship with after he works on Sonic’s bi-plane, travels with him through Westside Island, collects the emeralds again including a seventh one, boards the Wing Fortress, makes it onto the Death Egg, defeats Silver Sonic, transforms into Super Sonic and destroys Eggman’s giant robot, travels to Little Planet, meets Amy who is shortly captured by Metal Sonic, collects the Time Stones, has an epic race against Metal Sonic, defeats Eggman, teams up with Mighty and Ray to escape Eggman’s prison fortress, briefly returns to South Island with Tails to free it from Eggman’s control. travels to Angel Island, has a run-in with an echidna named Knuckles, travels through the first half of Angel Island, destroys Eggman’s Big Arm robot, lands in Mushroom Hill, starts collecting Super Emeralds, encounters Knuckles in the Hidden Palace and defeats him, teams up with Knuckles as they scale Sky Sanctuary, boards the Death Egg again while Knuckles fights Mecha Sonic, goes up against a modified Master Emerald-powered version of Eggman’s giant robot, transforms into Super Sonic while joined by Super Knuckles and Super Tails, finds himself in a tight spot until he uses the Super Emeralds to transforms into Hyper Sonic, defeats Eggman, returns the Master Emerald, parts ways with Knuckles, encounters a bounty hunter named Fang, travels through a number of zones, fights both Fang, Metal Sonic, and Eggman at Atomic Destroyer Zone, parts ways with Tails, finds himself in one of Eggman’s bases with slow-down shoes, overcomes his lack of mobility and defeats Eggrobo disguised as Eggman, while Tails battles the Battle Bird Armada, while Knuckles forms a group call the Chaotix and collects the Chaos Rings while battling Eggman and Metal Sonic Kai, as Sonic rendevous with Tails, and then the Chaotix.

Then Sonic would team up with Knuckles to destroy Eggman’s Silver Castle, collect Flickies with help from Tails, and Knuckles, battle against several of friends and other opponents to win seven emeralds (and one pricey gem) and a trip in Tails’ rocket to defeat Eggman and Metal Sonic, team up with Tails, Knuckles, and Tiara to rescue Amy and Dr. Gazebo Boobowski from Eggman’s Galaxy Fortress, compete in a series of races against his friends, Eggman, Metal Sonic, Metal Knuckles, Eggrobo, and a random Tails doll/robot,

And the classic era is history!

Sonic Games Timeline (in-universe)

Classic Era

Modern Era


The Human World

Return to Sonic's World

Return to the Human World

Return to Sonic's World 2

Unknown Placement

To Be Continued

No True Placement


Mario Kart 8

Characters who should've had a chance

  • Birdo
  • Diddy Kong
  • Nabbit
  • Pauline
  • Bowser Jr.
  • Donkey Kong Jr.

Characters who just waste space

  • Pink Gold Peach
  • Cat Peach
  • Tanooki Mario
  • Dry Bowser
  • Baby Characters (I hate to do this, but sorry babies....)
    • Baby Daisy
    • Baby Rosalina

What is NIDS (Neuro-Immune Deficiency Syndrome)

I'll take a stab at this. Neuro-Immune Deficiency Syndrome is a group of symtoms that consistently occur in relation to a lack of function of one's neuroimmune system. Because one's nervous system and immunity system lack a functioning immunity, harm comes to both their nerves and body (one's voluntary and involuntary actions become impaired, while the body becomes more suceptable to diseases).

Sonic Character Nicknames

  • Sonic - Sega's Mario (90's Edition)
  • Tails - Sonic's Sidekick
  • Amy - Girl Sonic With a Hammer/Sonic's Japanese Girlfriend
  • Sally - Sonic's American Girlfriend/Kath Sourcie the Mobian
  • Metal Sonic - Robot Sonic
  • Silver Sonic - Clunky Robot Sonic
  • Mecha Sonic - Genesis Metal Sonic
  • Shadow - Evil Sonic With a Backstory
  • Rouge - Sex Symbol the Sonic Character
  • Cream - Amy's Sidekick/Girl-Rabbit-Tails the Child
  • Chao - Chaos the Tamagotchi
  • Omochao - Mecha Chao the Navi
  • Silver - Super Hedgehog #3
  • Blaze - Sol-verse Female Sonic the Cat
  • Marine - Aussie Cream
  • Sticks - Boom Marine
  • Amy (Sonic Boom) - Amy the Sally
  • Julie-Su - Sally Knuckles the Tsundere
  • Hershey - Plot Device the Mobian
  • Tikal - Girl Knuckles the Pacifist
  • Mighty - Sonuckles the Armadillo
  • SatAM Sonic - Jaleel the Hedgehog
  • Eggman Nega - Eggman the Eviler?
  • Eclipse - Shadow the Pure-Black Alien
  • Madonna - Sega Pauline

Needs More Love - Characters

There is a large number of characters who have been shafted from recent Sonic titles over the years:

  • Big the Cat. Yes, a large number of fans hate him for being fat, slow-witted, obsessed with Froggy, and generally useless both plot-wise and gameplay-wise in a fast-paced action/adventure game that revolves around a fast blue hedgehog. Sega's decision to retire him for future games doesn't help matters either (unless you're an anti-Big fan). However, in Big's defense, he didn't stand much of chance in the first game he was playable in, compared to the speed our main protagonist and how heavily locked in plot he and other playable characters were in regards to Eggman, his Egg Carrier, and Chaos, along with not having any pre-existing history with any of the characters. But since the damage is done, it would be helpful to put Big's character to better use by focusing on his positive aspects. While Big will never have a playable role in any main Sonic games, he could have more use in spin-off game genres such as fighting, where he could be a Gentle Bruiser (due to his size and personality). Another option could be his own fishing game, which would give Big [more room to expand in character, without having to contrast with any of the fast-paced Sonic elements of the core series.


"Broken" is an unused (and under-appreciated!) song from Shadow the Hedgehog.

Don't wanna feel like
Don't wanna think like
Don't wanna live like
Like someone else
Wanna feel like
Just wanna think like
Just wanna be like
Everyone else
Couldn't walk away from something broken
Tried to find a way to make it good again
Only you can make a difference darling
Don't wanna sing like
Don't wanna dream like
Don't wanna act like
Like someone else
Wanna feel life
Just wanna live life
Just wanna live life
As someone else
Couldn't walk away from something broken
Tried to find a way to make it good again
Only you can make a difference darling
Won't someone help me (I'm feeling down)
Won't someone help me (Yeah I'm falling down)
Won't someone help me (Yeah I'm already down)
Couldn't walk away from something broken
Tried to find a way to make it good again
Only you can make a difference darling
Couldn't walk away from something broken
Tried to find a way to make it good again
Only you can make a difference darling

Mario vs Sonic

  • Super Mario Bros. vs Sonic the Hedgehog
  • Super Mario Bros. 2 vs Sonic the Hedgehog 2
  • Super Mario Bros. 3 vs Sonic the Hedgehog 3
  • Super Mario World vs Sonic & Knuckles
  • Super Mario Kart vs Sonic Drift
  • Mario Kart 64 vs Sonic R
  • Super Mario 64 vs Sonic X-treme/Sonic Jam/Sonic Adventure
  • Mario Party vs Sonic Shuffle
  • Super Mario Sunshine vs Sonic Adventure 2
  • Super Mario Galaxy vs Sonic Colors
  • Mario Kart Wii vs Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing
  • New Super Mario Bros. vs Sonic Rush
  • New Super Mario Bros. 2 vs Sonic Rush Adventure
  • Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars vs Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood
  • New Super Mario Bros. Wii vs Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1
  • New Super Mario Bros. U vs Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 2
  • New Super Luigi U vs Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode Metal
  • Super Mario Bros. Super Show vs Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog
  • Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 vs Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM)
  • Super Mario World (Series) vs Sonic Underground

Nintendo vs Sega vs Capcom vs Namco

  • Super Mario vs Sonic the Hedgehog vs Megaman vs Pac-man
  • The Legend of Zelda vs Golden Axe vs Ghost n' Goblins vs Tower of Druaga
  • Fire Emblem vs Phantasy Star
  • Urban Fight vs Virtua Fighter vs Street Fighter vs Tekken
  • Metroid vs Baraduke
  • Kid Icarus vs The Legend of Valkyrie

Sonic vs Mario - Stages

  • Metal Harbor vs Rico Harbor
  • Radical City vs Neo Bowser City
  • Resort Island vs Koopa Beach
  • Radiant Emerald vs Rainbow Road
  • Windmill Isle vs Bianco Hills
  • Bingo Highway vs Waluigi Pinball
  • Mystic Ruins vs Hazy Maze Cave
  • Mushroom Hill vs Mushroom Gorge
  • Angel Island vs DK Jungle/DK's Jungle Parkway
  • Sunset Hill vs Maple Treeway
  • City Escape vs Toad Harbor
  • Icecap (Sonic 3) vs Sherbert Land
  • Dragon Road vs Dragon Driftway
  • Carnival Night vs Pinna Park
  • Hot Crater vs Grumble Volcano
  • Music Plant vs Music Park
  • Sky Sanctuary vs Rainbow Ride
  • Sweet Mountain vs Sweet Sweet Canyon
  • Pirate Storm vs Wario Shipyard
  • Southern Island vs Delfino Plaza
  • Casino Night vs Razzle Dazzle Slider
  • Casinopolis vs Sirena Beach
  • Emerald Coast vs Gelato Beach

Sonic vs Mario - Milestones


  • 1981 - Donkey Kong
  • 1985 - Super Mario Bros.
  • 1990 - Super Mario Bros. 3
  • 1995 - Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
  • 2000 - Paper Mario
  • 2005 - Happy! Mario 20th - Super Mario Sound Collection
  • 2010 - Super Mario All-Stars: Limited Edition/Super Mario Bros. 25th Anniversary Edition Wii
  • 2015 - Super Mario Maker/Let's Super Mario! The 30th Anniversary of Super Mario Bros.


  • 1991 - Sonic the Hedgehog (16-bit)
  • 1996 - Sonic Xtreme (Cancelled)
  • 2001 - Sonic Adventure 2
  • 2006 - Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)
  • 2011 - Sonic Generations
  • 2016 - Lord knows what/the Sonic film?

Mario Villain Throwdown

  • Mario vs Iggy, Morton Jr., Lemmy, Ludwig, Roy, Wendy, Larry, Bowser Jr., Bowser (SM1)
  • Mario vs Tatanga, Smithy, Cackletta, Grodus, Dementio, Bowser (SM3).
  • Mario vs Wart, Captain Syrup, Rudy the Clown, Baby Bowser, Wingo, King K. Rool, King Boo, Bowser (SMW)
  • Mario vs Ganondorf, Dedede, Mother Brain, Mewtwo, Andross, Medusa, Medeus, Porky/Giygas, Bowser (SM64.
  • Mario vs Greedy, Wizeman, Dark Raven, M. Bison, Pyron, Valgas, Heihachi, Druaga, Ghadius, Bowser (SMS).
  • Mario vs Pac-Ghosts, Wily, Eggman, Bowser (SMG/SMG2)
  • Mario vs Bowser (SM1), Bowser (SM3), Bowser (SMW), Bowser (SM64), Bowser (SMS), (SMG/SMG2), Giga Bowser (SSB), Giga Bowser X

Possible Ideas for a Nintendo Theme Park

  • Mario 64 Castle replica entrance
  • Mario Kart cart bumpers
  • Luigi's Mansion scary house
  • Animal Crossing Garden
  • Wario Ware arcade place
  • Ocarina Of Time town replica
  • DK Jungle coaster
  • Kid Icarus eye wheel
  • Epona horse ride
  • Pokemon Center canteen (food eatery)
  • Starfox flying (where you are seated on chair and then you are spin around )
  • Legend of Zelda opera house and symphony
  • F-Zero super coaster
  • Metroid laser gun fight or puzzle obstacle place
  • Fire Emblem museum
  • Nintendo museum
  • Shigeru Miyamoto Statue at the front together witn Mario.
  • A Gyromite shop (where they sell remote control R.O.B. toys)
  • Takamaru’s Gallery (a virtual shiruken simulator)
  • Ice Climber Ice Cream Shoppe
  • Kirby Gourmet Restaurant
  • Wii Fit workouts
  • Game & Watch photo booth
  • A gigantic Nintendo Store with tons of demo stations and video games
  • Mario pizza restaurant
  • Princess peach’s cake cafe
  • Animal Crossing Cafe with a stage showing animotronic dolls of the characters
  • Yoshi’s cookie factory
  • Donkey Kong fruit smoothie cart
  • Donkey Kong playground
  • Special event days where Sonic, Megaman, and Pac-man make guest appearances.
  • A stage show with the Nintendo all-star cast, also including our guest stars on special occassions mentioned above.

Sonic Gender Swaps

  • Sonic - Sonica
  • Dr. Eggma'am/Eva Robotnik
  • Miles "Tails" Prowler - Miley Prowler
  • Knuckles - Kna'cole
  • Amy - Andy
  • Shadow - Willow
  • Rouge - Rogue
  • Charmy - Cammy
  • Silver - Silvia
  • Maria -  Mario!?

Playable Characters in Sonic Ultimate Brawl

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