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Sonic the Comic Online is a fan-series developed for the internet when Fleetway Editions finished the actual Sonic the Comic. Just because SEGA mentions it in their blog doesn't mean it's official, as they have the rights to mention practically anything unofficial. We don't want to include storyline about it, because it would similar to posting sprite comics in the mainspace. Serious Sam Heavy 14:34, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the Death Egg Robot Edit

The D.E.R. is a machine, and not a character itself. While Metal Sonic is a machine as well, he has been portrayed as a character, rather than being a simple machine with no will of it's own.

Long story short, D.E.R. is a giantic suit for Classic Eggman while M.S. is a character. DarkK3 09:17, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

hey sorry i didnt talk back i havnt been on SNN 4 a long time i'v been at the ratchet and clank wiki:)Miles Tails Prower8000 Tails is Awesome! 02:39, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thats Great:D Do u like Ratchet and Clank Better than Sonic or There about the sameMiles Tails Prower8000 Tails is Awesome! 02:44, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

i been knowing Sonic for 10 years and i been knowing R and c for 6 years so i think they are a tie for me:DMiles Tails Prower8000 Tails is Awesome! 02:54, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

I feel sad:(Miles Tails Prower8000 Tails is Awesome! 21:21, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Mephiles Article Edit

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 09:12, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

I noticed the information you added to Mephiles the Dark's page relating to his cameo in a previous Sonic Universe issue and have reverted your edits. The Mephiles seen in said cameo and the one from Sonic 06 are not the same character. Since I'm not the first person to tell you this, along with the fact that you have re-added such information several times before regardless of what other Users told you previously, I'm going to give you a warning not to re-add that information again, otherwise there will be consequences (which basically means that disregarding this warning could very well result in you being banned from editing this Wiki for a pre-determined period of time). Please take what I and the other Users say to you into consideration the next time you decide to edit any of our articles. Have a nice day.

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 09:20, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

I don't know where you got that idea, but the "Archieverse" and "Segaverse" aren't connected. They're entirely seperate continuities and should not be treated as though they're part of the same universe. Therefore, the Mephiles that cameos in Sonic universe has no relations to the Mephiles/Iblis/Solaris seen in Sonic 06. You can ask anyone else here and they'll tell you the very same answer. Also, if you check the page history on Mephiles' article you will see that several other users who reverted previous edits you made to said page have told you what I'm telling you now.

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 09:28, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter to me if it was just one person, the point I was making was that at least someone else already tried to explain this to you before, whether you actually were aware of it or not, but since you weren't aware then you can disregard my previous warning. Anyway, have a nice day.

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 10:41, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

What is wrong with "An alternate version of Mephiles"? Also, the header for the section where this information is written should be self-explainitory as to which continuity the other Mephiles in question belongs to, correct? So why repeat the same information?

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 10:49, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

I personally think "Archie version" sounds redundant as the header "Archie Comics" already explains to the reader which continuity this alternate version of Mephiles appears in. On a side note, the first sentence also explains which specific part of the "Archie Sonic Universe series" said Mephiles appears in. Since the information is already there, I think saying "the Archie version of Mephiles makes a cameo in the Archie Sonic Universe series, in the Scourge arc" would sound worse than what's already written.

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 12:58, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

While the Void thing is a different issue entirely, I thought we finished the issue with the "alternate version" bit. Why did you try to change it again?

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 13:04, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

What? You must've misread something. The Mephiles that cameos in Sonic Universe can't be the same character as the one who appears in Sonic 06. Ian Flynn, the current writer of the comics, said that the events of Sonic 06', in a way, already happened (if I recall, this info came from Sonic grams in an earlier published comic) in the comic. And the Archie Sonic universe is completely different from the Sega games; they have absolutely no relation to one another.

EDIT: I've checked M.E. myself just now. Mephiles' page doesn't even exist on that Wiki, nor did I find any information relating to your claim in Sonic Universe #29's article. Where are you getting your information?

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 13:15, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

No it doesn't. Archie Sonic is completely unrelated to the SEGA games. The Archie comics has done multiple adaptions of the SEGA games throughout its history (such as Sonic Adventures 1 & 2, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Blast, Sonic and the Black Knight, etc.), most of which aren't even canon to the main events of the comic because they were created to promote the games said adaptions were based on. So Sonic 06's events in the comic, had we actually seen them, would've undoubtedly included elements made by the "Archieverse", therefore it wouldn't be the same thing seen in the actual game itself. Which means that it'd be different in the comics even if by a small degree. Keeping this in mind, both the SEGA Mephiles and Archie Mephiles shouldn't even exist, and the Mephiles seen during the Scourge arc is a Mephiles that comes from a different Zone in the Archieverse than Mobius Prime, meaning that Mephiles is unrelated to both the SEGA Mephiles and the Mobius Prime Mephiles. The Archie Sonic Mephiles we actually did see and the one from SEGA's Sonic 06 are not the same.

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 13:21, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean its "not proof"? I'm presenting you with the most logical explaination I can give you for this non-existent controversy, and I fail to see how it doesn't prove anything. And I thought we were talking about SEGA's Mephiles being the same as Archie's cameo?

Alright, I'm going to attempt to make this as clear as Gen has: In the Archieverse, there is a series of zones in the Cosmic Interstate, where alternate reality-versions on the characters in the main Archie Continuity appear. The version of Mephiles seen in the Sonic Universe Issue is an Alternate Reality version of Mephiles due to the fact that Mephiles and Iblis ceased to exist in the events of Sonic 2006. Same applies for Void's cameo. Ian Flyyn loves adding simple cameos of unused/non-plot-related characters into the issues, so just accept this as it is. Serious Sam Heavy 13:25, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 13:26, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Alright then, could you please explain to me how you believe the Mobius Prime Mephiles and the Zone Jail Mephiles are one in the same?

There's no point in adding a mention of the original Mephiles if he never appeared in the comics at all. The Alternate Version of Mephiles can be mentioned, but only in the Trivia of Meph's article. Serious Sam Heavy 13:30, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Done. Serious Sam

Heavy 13:35, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 13:37, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

... But that can't work because, again, assuming Archie's version of Sonic 06 had actually occured according to Ian Flynn, then Solaris would've been wiped out from existence, meaning that Mobius Prime's Mephiles would completely vanish. So how can Mobius Prime's Mephiles be in the Zone Jail if he no longer existed by the time we actually saw the Zone Jail Mephiles? Look, IDT this is going anywhere, so lets just drop this.

Genesjs – "I don't die. I just go on adventures."
TALK – 10:30, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

I... don't think so. You can ask other Admins if you want, but I don't think that the articles need to be merged even if one is an upgraded version of another robot, because even so they aren't the same robots.

Rivals Edit

If by "official information" you mean the fact that the rivals are on the Boss Gates on the 3DS version, then that's not valid. They are advertised as RIVALS in the Boss reveal trailer, and that's OFFICIAL. DarkK3 14:17, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Myself 123 Edit

Check the history. Myself 123 01:07, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Look at your edit... Myself 123 01:21, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Separate boss pages Edit

I assume that the page was deleted because people assumed the page was about a version of Metal Sonic that appeared in Sonic CD. You need to be clearer that it is about a boss battle, and that the character is on a different page. YOu can do that with an indented, italicised line at the top of the page. Or you could call the page "Metal Sonic (Sonic CD boss)" instead of "Metal Sonic (Sonic CD)". Or both.

Also, the page you created contained less information about the boss battle than the Metal Sonic page itself does - in order to make separate pages worthwhile, you need to put everything about the boss battle onto the new page, then reduce the info on the Metal Sonic page and provide a link to the new page. As a first step, it might be best to create a new section heading on the Metal Sonic page called 'Boss battles' or something. Build up that section, then move it out to a new page. We could do the same for other character pages too. Or if you just want to work on the Metal Sonic page you already created, I could undelete it for you. How do you want to proceed? -- Supermorff (talk) 06:43, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

Metal Sonic Picture Edit

Where did you find that great picture of Metal Sonic from Sonic the the Hedgehog 4: ep 2? I would really like to know thatUltrasonic9000 09:28, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

EYCEST★R ★Edit

I'll show you the exact same message I provided to Casvic:

A grandparent category is a category of a category. If you click the hyperlink of a category, say Category:Speed Type Characters, you will notice that the category page has a category as well, which is its grandparent category. Keep clicking these hyperlinks and you will notice that each category is categorized with another category, which are their grandparent categories. If a category has a grandparent category that is not in an article, then it shouldn't be added in the article since it already co-exist within a category that is already in the article. Confusing, I know.

Anyways, if you were to click the hyperlink of a category that is located on Knuckles' page, such as Category:Power type characters, you will notice that this category's grandparent category is Category:Characters by ability type. Click this category, and you will see that this category's grandparent category is Category:Playable characters, which should not be added to Knuckles' page because it is already co-existing within his page in Category:Power type characters. Click Category:Playable characters, and you will notice that its grandparent category is Category:Game Characters, which also should not be added to Knuckles' page because it too is a grandparent category that already co-exist in the article through Category:Power type characters. Not too complex if you understand this very simple principle. EYCEST★R ★ 15:04, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Re: BiggerTheCat Edit

Do you know BiggerTheCat personally??

TheAwesomefroggy 14:00, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

good you:)Miles Tails Prower8000 Turtles:D 13:48, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

well i left for a month but i came back:)Miles Tails Prower8000 Turtles:D 15:17, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

Metal Sonic v3.0 Edit

First of all, how do you know that Eggman created a Metal Sonic (Shard) in his world? All we know about Dr. Eggman in his zone was that it was identical with robotnik prime's "up unitl a certain point" as Zonic explained. We do not know when he split appart from Robotnik Prime's life, and therefore we cannot know for certain if he created Shard before his life split apart from Robotnik. Such unsupported info is taboo on a wiki.

Second, if you want to stand by that Eggman created a Shard in his world, you have to understand that he would then be a dimensional counterpart to Shard, which means that he would not be a part of the 3.0 metal sonic line, but a part of Eggman's v1.0 and v2.0 line, which is seperate from the v3.0 line

Third, the arcticle is called THE METAL SONIC v3.0 LINE, NOT THE METAL SONIC v3.0, v2.0 AND v1.0 LINE. Such designations would only serve to mix info together which would then only serve to confuse the reader. Shard just appent to be both v1.0, v2.0 and v2.5 because robotnik uploaded Shard's personality into the different Metal Sonics he made, while he has no relation to the v3.0 line because his personality is not programed into them. Therefore, the v3.0 series stand alone and seperate from Shard, besides being based on his first construction. IT DOES NOT MAKE THEM THE SAME "PERSON"

These are my argumentsUltrasonic9000 10:11, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Even so, it does not make Shard a part of the v3.0 series. He is the v1.0 and v2.0 series, the other Metal Sonics are the v3.0 serie. We do not treat them as one series, but as two different series, and two differen character(s) entirely. THey are built by different characters, and they have fundamental differences, and if you're stubborn enough to include Shard on the v3.0 series' article, then its a dimnensional counterpart to shard and not the Shard from the Prime Dimension (Mobius Prime).

Sorry if I sound a bit edgy, but this is just so frustratingUltrasonic9000 10:37, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

I understand, but this article is about the v3.0 series and does not include the v1.0 and the v2.0 series. Prime Metal Sonic happend to be both v1 and v2 because they had the same brain, while v3 is a "brand new series". Therefore we can treat them as seperate series with no relation.Ultrasonic9000 10:50, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

Well, this is the designation that Ian Flynn, the head writer of the comics, gave this series, so it give us something to think about. Maybe Eggman did make Metal Sonic v1 and v2 in his dimension or that he decided to follow up from where Robotnik prime left and continued his work with a new series.Ultrasonic9000 10:54, July 14, 2012 (UTC)

That doesn't make it canon to the games, it's an adaptation. Myself 123 13:50, April 22, 2013 (UTC)