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Guyviroth

135 Edits since joining this wiki
January 5, 2010
  • I live in United Kingdom
  • My occupation is Bouncer/Doorman, Building Surveyor
  • I am Male

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Hey Guy is you having trouble getting on the chat use this link http://xat.com/chat/room/80230640/?test We have to put ?test at the end of the url for some reason --Rocking Cowgirl Gamergal 17:56, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

And my answer...

Ok then, give my your reasons. I acted under pressure, because there was at least ten different users pressuring me to deal with you, and these were over the ten days I was away, with mentions of events at New Years, plus a few other things. I've seen you use words like f*** and s*** in blogs rather regularly, so no point lying to me with that. As for the two pages, I looked. I found both to be almost 85% similar. Anything above 75% similarities for me is a copy, and one of the two pages is a copy. No two people think THAT alike and hate each other so much. The threats aren't warranted in most cases, because the main people are Kagi and White, your vocal opposition, being threatened with them, and I've had a few reasons, including the swearing and intimidation, to demote or ban you in the first place. Kagi's chat is still connected to the wikia, and due to that, comes under the same rules as KPUC. And yes, I would say you are my rival. An intellectual one, who loves to torment my friends. The Shadow to my Sonic, as it were. If I'm a poor admin or bureaucrat, then that makes you an even poorer one, because you use methods like an army member or a dictator to achieve what you want, then twist it like a diplomat into what you want people to hear and think. The second last of the main set of admins, and look how you fell. You remind me of the Troll that was your biggest enemy...Evilagram.

This, I hope, explains what I was thinking at the time. Now, explain to me WHY you did it all. Then again, I don't think I should bother, this is not really my issue any more. Wikia Staff doesn't deal with these sort of cases, they say the bureaucrats can run the wiki AS THEY SEE FIT. Still, make your own wiki, or restart that little Sonic Fanon Wiki Fail Blog, for all I care. You aren't coming back to SFW, if the last thing I do as a bureaucrat. Flashfire Master of Flames 02:58, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Look, I'm frustrated, but it's not just Kagi. Others have just as much influence on me as he does. I'm a RATHER annoyed that you had people unban you while I was asleep, and that influenced what I was saying there. Look, I have no clue about what's going on, and I'm calm(er) compared to before. Explain to me why, and I'll take back the ban myself. The demotion will remain, though, sorry. It's a community decision. Flashfire Master of Flames 03:19, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ah. Well, in cases such as this, comment should at least be made, and a middle ground at least sought. I'll give that the pages might have been just a coincidence, but it's just a bit too perfect. As for the chat, there's two chats. One was made to be a form of social hub for the wiki, the other was made from necessity after a user on there was bullied to the point of explosion. I would class both as Wiki Chats, and it's a surprise that it's been this long until someone pointed out to me that only one of the two is listed as being an affiliate, and something I'll try to rectify sometime in the coming weeks. Now, for you...I'm prepared to offer letting you return to the terms I outlined before, allowing you to return without adminship, but I'm thinking of your own psychological state now after reading what's on your talkpage. I'll offer a temporary ban, just to enforce a holiday for you to get yourself together and deal with some of these issues, the same deal you offered me after I melted down and you banned me. The irony is that both times, Gen was the person to unblock one of us. So, do you want a couple of weeks, even a month or two, to get yourself back into shape, or do you want to come straight back? I'm going to have a word with Kagi on similar lines, but I'll leave one condition on the ban - if you and Kagi go at each other's throat at all for a few months, I'll block the two of you for a week or two each time. Ok? Flashfire Master of Flames 03:51, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

THAT'S what I'm talking about - the targeting of one person. Guy, face it. He's been the cause of as many riots as you, and you weren't punished (adequately) for them either. I'm offering you a chance to take stay. Otherwise, I'll have to ban you again, because the punishment of the person you targeted in a way that could be classed as bullying just to satisfy you isn't something I, or any of the other admins, are prepared to do. Flashfire Master of Flames 04:05, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

He does, and I'll have a word to him on the side about that, but it's the frustration release. We all get it. Even you. If I banned him, you'd start acting all high and mighty, while the debate would just shift so YOU look like the bad guy again, and I'll look like a gullible fool instead of someone just trying to make peace. Besides, every time he caused a riot, there's been an external reason. Name the issues, aside for the blog post, and I'll try to explain what I mean. Flashfire Master of Flames 04:18, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you said that's what you'd like, but I got confused, because you said that after I asked if there was any time you needed, the same "deal" you offered me, an enforced holiday. I'm only human, I make mistakes, so I'm sorry, but I'm still thinking of just implementing it anyway, but like I said on my blog, I want to be merciful, and I want the issues with you and Kagi gone. Just get this through your thick skull - I am not under Kagi's thumb. I was acting on the influence of a pair of admins, one of which I have ties to. Heh, it's like Kit's time as a 'crat, except instead of me being on the outside, getting angry at the decisions made without me knowing, it's you. My offer still stands - you return to the wiki either with or without an enforced holiday, you leave Kagi alone, and everyone's happy. The other option is that I just ban you for going against a ban, the same as I would a sockpuppet abusing troll. You aren't a Troll, as far as I understand, but I'm being objective. If I was being burdened by emotion, I would have just given you a permanent ban straight out. Consider it, and give me your decision. Not any manipulative jargon, no appeals to emotion, just a decision. Flashfire Master of Flames 06:08, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Check this out

http://xat.com/Hand_In_Hand

Don't worry, this isn't something you're gonna regret. It's just somewhere we can talk alone. -- Shelly the Hedgehog Amy to ShellyI'm not a monkey! 03:09, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hey. Shima wants to leave SFW and thinks none of her friends would care. Doing a secret collage made with pics from all of her friends to prove her wrong. It's due in two weeks, and Shima can't know about it. Pics can't have backgrounds and can only have signatures for words. You wanna help?--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 02:06, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

The picture has to be of at least one of her characters, since the collage is dedicated to her.--Kagimizu-Seeya 'round 18:41, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Well, what exactly is he doing, out of curiosity? As for here, the Sonic Generation's page has been acting as a hotspot for this place, but other than that things are more or less calm here. No serious incidents, just watching people blog and edit. As for me, I'm trying to get my school work done and make sure I can get on here to keep an eye on things. How have you been doing? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 16:42, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind, I looked myself. Doesn't surprise me much, though. He got pissed at me last night to, although I'm willing to admit that I was partially at fault for his little rage fit from last night. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 16:49, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hmph. That's the same damn thing he got on my case about last night, in that case, the collab for Shima. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 16:50, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

If there is, I'm unaware of it. All I know is that I got pissed at him last night for criticizing me for trying to help out a friend in my own way as though I had no idea what he was planning, while also twisting my words, ignoring many of my arguments, and complained essentially about how I didn't do things his way. But as for here and SFW, I don't think there is any reason why he's allowed to cause trouble, I just think no one is really trying to do anything about him. The only person I see truly doing anything is you, while everyone else is just being silent or silently agreeing with whoever for whatever reason Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 16:56, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't surprise me, because he's never really been one to accept other people's arguments when it's inconvinient for him. But at least you have grounds to stand up to him, and from what I can see he's in the perfect position to get demoted. The more I see him talk, the more I'm convinced of this. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 17:03, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Then they should be dealt with as well, since they'll be technically aiding someone who insists on breaking the rules for his own ego. As to how they should be dealt with, contacting Wikia staff once you get enough evidence and ground to stand on would probably be your best option. That's all I can think of besides just getting the hell off SFW and coming here, where Admins who can think and logically reside, so that way he can't try anything here that relates to SFW without opposition from people of equal and higher rank than him. But right now, me getting invovled would only make things worse because, as you pointed out, he's got allies who will do just about anything he tells them to so ultimately whatever I do will be pointless in the long run. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 17:10, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

In a way, I understand how you feel. SFW once felt like a haven and potential gold mine to me, and it pisses me off to no end to see the same person who's been a source of Wiki drama for me destroy it for his own selfish desires while also manipulating the other users to his cause. It's like watching a peaceful country getting invaded by another country, and all the people are being rounded up to either be killed (banned), or imprisioned and/or forced to work for the invading country (threatened with power by someone of a higher rank). Kag, as much as it's frustrating to know, is a force to be reckoned with and going against him will not be an easy feat. I've learned that the hard way many times, whether it was my own fault, partially my fault, or if I was perfectly justifiable in the certain acts I did in which he opposed me for. He'll use ANYTHING he possibly can in order to get the upper hand with his enemies, and get rid of them. If you want to send a clearer message to the whole SFW, then you're going to need support. And if you want me to, I'll help out any way I can. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 17:21, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I need to go catch my bus, but I'll log back on as soon as I find a computer at my main school. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 17:22, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

If this crap gets too far out of hand, then I probably will anyway, because like it or not Kag will have some influence over my activities on the Sonic Wikis as long as he's in a position of power. Also, I'm getting tired of his crap, and if no one else can put a stop to him then I'll do it myself. He and I have some unfinished business anyway, and there's no way in hell I'm going to let him avoid justice if I can get an opportunity to have it put on him. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 17:52, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, it's a nice image in my mind. As for Flash and Ryu, if they're smart they'll stop supporting someone who's obviously a trouble-maker and start doing their damn jobs. Otherwise, their days as Administrative figures will most likely be numbered. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 17:59, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

You're probably right. That doesn't mean that I don't think they shouldn't get spanked for helping a bully, though :P Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:02, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Good enough, I suppose. Anyway, I'm sorry that Kag is ruining freedom of speech and abusing his powers, which in turn are ruining any fun you may have been having on SFW. It just amazes me why he hasn't been demoted by his own community yet. Chances are the longer he's allowed to do the stuff he's doing on SFW, he'll bring his high horse here and other places where he has power over others. The very thought depresses me, and I would really hate to have to resort to going underground in order to escape his BS in case he gains too much influence over people. Probably won't happen, though. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:12, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Digimon, huh? I haven't watched that show since Elementary. I'll think about it, but chances are I'll need to get informed of the series again before I do, otherwise I may be... an awkward presence, at best. Are there any other places you go to, out of curiosity? Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:23, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Well, there's morons everywhere in the world, and this is true in the Internet especially. It's like for every smart, level-headed, open-minded person there is there's someone who is... well, the opposite. I just think it's best to try and find people you can relate to and get along with, and just stick with those guys for the majority of your time. That's what I try to do with you and the few other friends I have left on the web. Ah. I think I can do that. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:29, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Heh, okay. :B I'll need to make some characters, then (and try to avoid making characters with trench coats, if I can help it XD) Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:38, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Gotcha. And I should be able to adapt to Forums as long as I can figure out how everything works, although chances are I'll have some questions on the way. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:45, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Anyway, I gotta go. School demands it. So see you later (and don't let that tool master keep ya down! =D). Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 18:50, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Eh, screw it, I can multitask :P Anyway, back. Phoenix the CatThe flames reborn.... 19:22, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

Argument

I heard you had quite a fight with MetalShadow. I would like to know what caused it and how did the fight make you feel.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 13:10, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks.--58SlugDrones • (Contact) 11:36, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Don't swear on this wiki. Myself 123 22:32, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Um, excuse ME!?! I said the other administrators had discussed it, and even Ryu, on her own, found your excuse shabby and inexplicable compared to your regular outlook. The two people barely had fifteen edits between them, their pages were horrendeous, the kind of thing you normally shun, and yet, both their grammar and skill suddenly improved to your level when they started roleplaying, and there was enough lag between edits for it to be you simply signing in to different accounts. Look, I wasn't one hundred percent convinced, but I was basically told what I had to do. Besides, you called yourself a good admin? YOU WERE USED. You were used by the old admins as a scapegoat, someone to take the blame for the decisions they agreed on but didn't have the guts to perform themselves. I might be a poor excuse for a bureaucrat, but I listen, I make my own judgements, and I tried not to judge you on this. Like I said, I wasn't convinced either way. The rest were. It was either I ban you, or someone like White or Ryu does, and I didn't want to put Megan through that, or let someone who hates you do it. Better it be me, the guy who, despite what Kagi thinks, won't let anyone else share the burden of the wiki's weight fully and can take the entire beating you dish out, knowing full well that you might just incite a freaking Troll War, but honestly, Guy, I don't care if you resent me, or just want to drive me back into my quivering wreck of a persona - this time, I'm not backing down, and the weight of the wiki is holding me up. Sir Flare, Knight of The Flaming Sword 00:30, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

The post was more stating the evidence I had, and explaining why I had to do what I did. Besides, dude, why not bring your argument to me here, where the whole world can see? Sir Flare, Knight of The Flaming Sword 00:38, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

No, KPUC will be fine, if you must have a go at me anywhere. Sir Flare, Knight of The Flaming Sword 00:51, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

I am? News to me. I've been at a guitar lesson. Sir Flare, Knight of The Flaming Sword 06:06, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Memphis made his own decision, the third adjudicator in this mess, and this time, I can't unban you. Now you have to convince him. Sir Flare, Knight of The Flaming Sword 09:38, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

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Sacorguy79

Guyviroth, one thing I should mention is that you should check all dates of blog posts before you post a comment, because we don't like it when people comment on old blog posts. Just letting you know! I'll have to give myself a Promotion image 23:14, October 2, 2011 (UTC)Sacorguy79

He made his decision. I made mine, then was convinced otherwise. Memphis agreed that the sockpuppetry wasn't part, but he felt that both you and the other two were trolling, and that it was serious enough for you to be banned. And no, don't keep trying to make me feel bad. It just destroys the fragile emotional state I've built, but I can't veto another bureaucrat. Sir Flare, Knight of The Flaming Sword 01:34, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sure, what's happened now? Sir Flare, Knight of The Flaming Sword 23:42, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

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Punishment

I've ended your unfair punishment. I apologize on behalf of the wiki for not noticing this earlier. The ban went against our own guidelines. If you need further assistance, let me know. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 20:44, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

No action has been taken against Kagimizu. While I believe he was certainly out of place to use his administrative tools to impose his own personal will, I haven't done anything about it. --Bullet Francisco (talk) Contributions Editcount 01:51, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

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