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Zelda wiki

I think i've met you over there before haven't I. Amyrunhammer Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere... Amyrunhammer

Yeah, I guess I've been around the block. LinkTheLefty (talk) 04:23, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

Okay just making sure. Amyrunhammer Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere... Amyrunhammer

Boss Names

Hey, about the bosses in Knuckles' Chaotix... what about we follow the example on Sonic Retro and name them after the zone where they appear after, rather than fan names some might nor recognize, such as Botanic Base Boss, Speed Slider Boss, Amazing Arena Boss and so on?Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 07:57, April 7, 2013 (UTC)

That's a good idea. Let's go with that. LinkTheLefty (talk) 06:30, April 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hey! Just wanted to say you're doing a great job with your contributions. Keep it up! :) -- Shadowunleashed13 (talk) 17:39, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

Heh, thanks! I appreciate it. LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:37, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Where'd you find the Egg Gaunlet Zone image? That's news to me... Is there any more info on it? (sorry for drilling you with questions) -- Shadowunleashed13 (talk) 22:10, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Sure thing! I first spotted it over at this thread at Sonic Retro, in sonicblur's spoiler tag. I don't see the original topic it was posted in, but the fans are good at this and I trust it'll be revealed in due time. (Though it could always turn out to be a new unused level like Desert Dazzle, but the fact that new levels were announced leads me to believe otherwise.) LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:30, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much, noble sir. -- Shadowunleashed13 (talk) 22:36, December 13, 2013 (UTC)

Yep, no problem. Although, if you look at the next page, Taxman explained what the Egg Gauntlet Zone was... Yeah, false alarm after all, though I guess it at least makes neat trivia. LinkTheLefty (talk) 04:17, December 14, 2013 (UTC)

So which is it?

I have yet to figure whether Link uses his left or right hand.

Or even ambidextrous. The True Ultimate Silver Fan (My talking page! Someone tell it to stop.) 20:55, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Depends on the Link! LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:47, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Metal Sonic Kai

I think you should put that information (with the exception of blaming Sonic Retro XD) on the page itself. -- Shadowunleashed13 - ContributionsDebug Mode 17:16, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

I would like to share this link to the South Island Stories that contains rather somewhat similar translations. Sadly, Metal Sonic (Metal Sonic MkII?) hasn't been translated. - MarioSonic (talk) 17:26, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Goody Goody. -- Shadowunleashed13 - ContributionsDebug Mode 17:41, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

In other words, it seems Eggman recovered the CPU from the destroyed Metal Sonic in Sonic CD and used the Chaos Rings to revive him in a new body, and now Metal Sonic mk. II a.k.a. Metal Sonic Kai can use the "plasma pulse attack". -- Shadowunleashed13 - ContributionsDebug Mode 17:44, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
Yes, more or less. (I just realized this means the Japanese manual actually has more problems in the modern continuity than the English one...) Anyway, I mentioned this in the Talk Page a while back, but I didn't really get back to it until now. Someone mentioned it's possible that it could come from some internal name in the game's code, but I can't really find evidence of that, and even if it were true the Japanese manual also identifies it as the name of the rebuilt Metal Sonic, so that can't be right (unless it's supposed to be the same name for both forms, but that still wouldn't make the name exclusive to this boss phase). Someone else suggested a name change to one of the comic names. So since there's nothing conclusive and I think a article title change that drastic should be up to a poll, I marked it as conjecture and added a quick note as the explanation. LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:25, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

I dunno, this seems pretty conclusive to me. Is there any evidence to the contrary? -- Shadowunleashed13 - ContributionsDebug Mode 18:34, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Not really, I've only noticed that certain hackers over at Sonic Retro and The Cutting Room Floor have occasionally been using the name when discussing their neat findings. LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:55, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
Then if the only real evidence as to what "Metal Sonic Kai" refers to is in the Japanese manual, then shouldn't we go with that? Unless I can unpack the game, but I doubt I'd find anything. -- Shadowunleashed13 - ContributionsDebug Mode 19:00, January 8, 2014 (UTC)
I'd say so to stick with the official word, even if it leaves the final boss creature unnamed (it had ambiguous identity to begin with - the comics make it clear was what it is in their continuity, but in the game it could just as easily be a giant space flea from nowhere). Although I'm pretty sure the English version of Sonic Gems Collection refers to the illustration as just Metal Sonic in the Chaotix art gallery, but I could be wrong - I can't check since I've lost my copy. Either way, I also noticed that Metal Sonic (Kai) isn't even mentioned in the North American manual - the most is just a drawing after the list of Badniks, but all it says is that there's a final confrontation with Dr. Robotnik to look forward to after the levels are completed. That, and the unused graphics that apparently belonged to an unfinished cutscene with him, leads me to think that the game was rushed. LinkTheLefty (talk) 19:45, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Tikal Image

If the Tikal image was edited of someone outside the official sources, then shouldn't it removed?Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 21:11, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, around the same time the drawing was discovered she was hired to actually illustrate Sonic art for a video game magazine. So maybe it can be considered pseudo-official? LinkTheLefty (talk) 21:24, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Sure or you know maybe have another section for games that are confuseing or don't really seem to fit. Amyrunhammer Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere... Amyrunhammer

One Shade vanishes Two Eggman has control of the entire world by the time you get back and Three the big one really big is that time in the Twilight Cage is said to much slower then our world so at best they've been gone for at lest a few good years and in the fact there's a lot of contrdiction and the fact that Eggman never used any bot like the Swat Bots and you have a canidate for a game that is at best ambugiuse about it's status as Canon and at the worst not in the main games time line alternate universe at the closest haveing it in the Misslencies what ever section let's us put it at where it's canon is best. Amyrunhammer Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere... Amyrunhammer

True add in the fact that this was never brought up agian anywhere is another hole in it being canon it really is ambiguiese of it's status as canon more so then any other game as it stands until we get clear proof we should keep it where it is. Amyrunhammer Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere... Amyrunhammer


I am sorry about the edits on the Sonic series. But remember? The Satam/Archie characters were only bonus cameos in the Bonus round in Sonic Spinball. But that doesn't make them canon to the games. --YoshiWii1 (talk) 04:58, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Oh, no, you don't have to apologize! Truthfully, I think the chronology section might need an overhaul since it might be a little confusing, or at least certain things need to be made more clear. I've also had my eye on it for the past hour or so due to some quick conflicting edits, so if I seemed a little irritated then that would be the reason. I think at this point, any significant changes or re-clarification should be taken to the Talk Page so everyone can take the time to agree on something. =) LinkTheLefty (talk) 05:12, January 27, 2014 (UTC)

Discussion About Suave

There's nothing you can do to prove that Eggman Nega isn't suave. The definition of suave is as follows: (esp of a man) displaying smoothness and sophistication in mann er or attitude; urbane. That just screams Eggman Nega, does it not? Sonicyoaifangirl1904 (talk) 06:53, February 10, 2014 (UTC)

I almost went with it until your edit got greedy with the "center of cool" phrase... Besides, I think that's a little too subjective, so it's better to just leave it out entirely. LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:47, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

The edit you removed was real [1] TheTrickster55 (talk) 21:07, February 11, 2014 (UTC) P.S I'm new to this wiki by the way...

Oh wow... I did not know about that at all! I took it for one of those wild Internet rumors. I'm sorry about that... Although, in the future, it is best to add a source either in the article or in the edit summary (especially if the fact is obscure) so that someone else doesn't make the same mistake. Welcome to the wiki, Trickster! =) LinkTheLefty (talk) 23:47, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

overall, it is because those titles were originally released as individual improvements to their original counterparts and as their own games. It might get blurry here in the present, but it does not change the past, and the fact of the past is that those games were released as their own games. Not listing them is like ignoring the past and simple facts.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 20:38, March 20, 2014 (UTC)

Well, like I mentioned before it is because they are updated versions of the previous game with several new key features. They are like the Final Mixs in the Kingdom Hearts series. Those are not identical games but rather significant improvements upon the old ones and are treated as their own games.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 18:05, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
I see we are at an impasse. It basically comes down to a clash of ideals and we know either of us are willing to budge. For me, it is the simple fact that the two versions are released as two separate games, whereas one is meant to be an upgrade; we list the games they appear in, and it just so happen there are two games about the same elements, whereas one is improved on. Basically, we have two games, and as such, I choose to list the games as we are meant to - there is no complication in that. If they were the same game, they would have to be identical in every way, but they are not: ergo two games. But I wont discuss about this right now, as I am too tired right now.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 19:20, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
Then I guess it has to be that way.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 19:53, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

Edit war

I protected the "Sonic the Hedgehog series" article due to an edit war. Please take the argument with User:Sonamyfan666 to talk pages instead of constantly reverting edits. Contact me once the issue has been resolved, since we need a final verdict to decide where the game will be placed. -- Shadowunleashed13 - ContributionsDebug Mode 18:16, June 5, 2014 (UTC)

Okay I've notice that for some reason you really want the Sonic Chronicles game in the main cannon section of the series page may I ask why I've looked the game over and even without the noncannon statment the game can't be cannon no mention of the Twilight Cage or Shade or any events that have happended in the game as well as the fact that quite some time has pased from when they entered the cage from there return with it being heavily implied that Eggman has taken over the world when they got back. Amyrunhammer Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere... Amyrunhammer

I say we modife the text to includ something like "If the cannon of the game is in question or can't fit with the rest of the series then it is also considered Miscallanece" does something like that work. Amyrunhammer Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere... Amyrunhammer

Well I'll have to wait and see give it a shot. Amyrunhammer Sonamyfan666 Follow me inside, outside, through the stratosphere... Amyrunhammer

Be sure to update Template:Chaotix Info with correct badnik names, too. ^_^ -- Shadowunleashed13 - ContributionsDebug Mode 21:54, June 8, 2014 (UTC)Andrewking14 (talk) 18:43, July 4, 2014 (UTC)Dude can you do me a faver and put the chroniclodgical thing back on the sonic series article.Andrewking14 (talk) 18:43, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

EgghammertankII name

Sonic Advance 2 Z1B

It's at Time Attack where all the other bosses are named. Here's a screenshot in the game that displays the boss's name. Mystic Orb (TP.CO.EC) 02:59, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

I don't know, the Time Attack in Sonic Advance 2 only listed the first seven bosses of the game and it doesn't mention any names about the final or the extra bosses. Mystic Orb (TP.CO.EC) 03:07, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

I was also thinking about the way it's written. Perhaps it looked like it had no spaces from my interpretation but maybe because, as you said, was due to spacing limits. So I was perhaps thinking about renaming "EgghammertankII" to "Egg Hammer Tank II" (and Sonic Retro uses the latter spelling as seen here here. Reckon we'd change it to that? Mystic Orb (TP.CO.EC) 23:28, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

Do you think that the Chaotix Crew is the early form of the Chaotix? If so, wouldn't it be a good idea to at least update that article with that name?Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 18:39, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

The way I see it, it is an early instance of the team's name which has since never been brought up since Sonic Heroes. I don't think that the game version of the group should be renamed, but more had that name mentioned on it such as "The Chaotix, also known as Team Chaotix or the Chaotix Crew ([insert Japanese name])", since it is technically the same group from back then, only that it was reinvented.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 18:57, June 9, 2014 (UTC)
Not to be harsh, but that shouldn't be mentioned unless there is anything supporting that claim: that would be false information.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 19:04, June 9, 2014 (UTC)
Wait, if nothing in even the Japanese manual calls them the Chaotix Crew, then there is no official source calling them that. And if that is the case, why are you then using that term if it is unofficial or at best too ambiguous to be a solid claim?Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 19:15, June 9, 2014 (UTC)
Sorry. The way you made it sound was that it was only written in the Japanese manual. Still, I think that name should be mentioned on Chaotix, since continuity is an abstract part of the Sonic series and whether it has a connection to Knuckles' Chaotix or not, it is the team that the one in heroes came from.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 19:30, June 9, 2014 (UTC)
I never wanted it any other way.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 19:45, June 9, 2014 (UTC)
Well, there are chases where the capitalization should be avoided, such as in cases when using "the" and "of" in the article name. It has just always been done primarily like when creating articles, like a unspoken norm of the wikia. Such cases are like Sonic's World. I am not making the customs, I am just following them and making sure they are upheld. Still, if you can mention the other articles using non-capitalization, I might reconsider my standpoint.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 12:09, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
Well, in such cases, those articles goes with a descriptive name (which is not classified as conjectured) than an actual name and it is in my experience exceptions to the rule. In my experience, it is articles with revealed official names that are given the capitalization (I swear I am not making this up). Also, I just believe that I have seen that Sonic's World is called "Sonic's world" in a few issues. Still, I think it can be allowed to be called "Blaze's world" for now and time will settle this dispute. Can we leave it at that and still be friends?Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 15:29, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

It's certainly possible. I think it could be a good idea, but a large header could be unwelcome to some readers. I'd suggest bringing your idea to the "Editing projects" forum in order to discuss the best way to implement your idea with other editors. -- Shadowunleashed13 - ContributionsDebug Mode 15:54, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

You know, it is not a bad idea. It would be good to have a note saying they have no English name, but I also agree with SU13's point about it being too big. I would also suggest you take it to a forum.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 17:44, June 20, 2014 (UTC)
I had a hard time writing Elise's name in Japanese so I knew what I was talking about. About Speedy, I am pretty certain that Speedy has been referred to as Battle Kukku XVI at some points in the comics. Also, regarding the versus concept for consistency, I personally think it is best that we should be as literal about the results as possible, regardless of how much we want consistency, and in my experience, when I translate those number to English as best as I can, I get roman numerals. This is especially (for me) supported by the fact that the Archie Comics also use roman numerals for the birds.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 17:13, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

About that "Perfect Precioustone" name, it is mentioned in the English manual of Sonic Shuffle, as seen here. Just so we don't have an edit war.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 19:11, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence as someone told me. Just because it is not called that in the game it does not mean it is not referred to as such as there is nothing contradicting it. At best, the name "Precioustone" could just be another name for for it, like someone say the ARK instead of Space Colony ARK and Emeralds instead of Chaos Emeralds. Also, we should best thrive after English terms here as the mentions in the game might just as well be direct Japanese translations (at least what I figure).Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 19:24, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Maybe, but I don't think it is a good idea to abandon this concept either and pretend it doesn't exist. Like I said, just because it is not used in the game there is nothing in the game contradicting its usage either as it might just be another name they use. Looking at it gameplay-wise, it kinda makes sense; whenever Lumina directs to a precioustone fragment she calls it the "Precioustone" like the manual does, and at the same time she calls the whole Precioustone the "Precioustone", so there is a contradiction there, UNLESS someone uses another name for the Precioustone fragments and its complete. Since Lumina calls the fragments Precioustones and the manual calls the Precioustones and she calls the whole Precioustone the Precioustone while the manual calls it the Perfect Precioustone, then I figure that the fragments has to be called Precioustones. So the contradiction lies with the whole Precioustone, but since the fragments have the name "Precioustone" confirmed without contraction then it must go by the name Perfect Precioustone. And even if the name is not in Japanese, it is a English term and we always takes English terms into account on SNN.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 19:59, June 28, 2014 (UTC)
Personally, I think that frequent uses of names does not play an important role when its against clear fact: for example in the Archie comics, they can keep saying Sonic's dimension when it is actually called the Prime Zone. But you have a point that the manual keep using the name "Precioustone", even when referring to the whole so how about I suggest a compromise; The article's name for the Precioustone remains the same and it mentions that "Master Precioustone" and "Precioustones" referrers to the whole and the fragments respectively, but when using on other article we should use the different terms to differentiate between the two concepts.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 20:28, June 28, 2014 (UTC)


Hello Link, Ultrasonic9000 here. I do not wish to bother you, but I need someone with your expertise in Japanese. I have found the Japanese website profiles for Amy Rose and Professor Pickle and I think they hold some nuggets of trivia we could use, but I can't translate them. So I figured that maybe you could. It is okay if you don't want to.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 10:17, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for these translations. I think I can use them for a thing or two.Ultrasonic9000 (talk) 17:38, July 6, 2014 (UTC)

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